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To: pezz who wrote (27305)	1/11/2003 3:04:41 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

pezz, Re: Well Ray, I of course haven't read the book but did read the link. It says nothing about the humanitarian issue.Bush is not pushing that issue. I was not interested in the humanitarian aspect in my post. I was trying to get through to you that your government is engaged in a psyops war against you and the rest of the American public to deceive you and convince you that there is some nobility to our Iraq scheme. While in reality, it is a completely cynical racket, designed to enrich the military-industrial profiteers who just love how easily they can play the "patriotism" card against the American public. Re: NPR is hardly a tool of the US government. Huh? NPR is, of course, something that was created by the federal government to further its agenda. Not only is it used for propaganda purposes by the government, but you also must realize that since it has been squeezed for operating funds, it has had to secure funding from various corporate sponsors. A good example is the Annenberg Foundation. Walter Annenberg was about as right wing as anyone gets in America. He (deceased 2002) expected and his foundation expects to have an editorial influence on NPR's content and they most certainly do. They make sure that voices of dissent are silenced or at least frustrated. How often do we here the well-reasoned commentary of Noam Chomsky, Michael Parenti, Greg Palast and other investigative journalists on NPR in comparison to the drivel of the center andRight? Of the crowd of regular commentators on NPR, we can say that Daniel Shorr is something of a center-left commentator. Kokie Roberts is decidedly on the conservative side of things. Nina Totenberg could never be considered even close being a liberal. And what about things like "American Life"? Though this crowd is culturally liberal, they certainly are almost completely self-censoring about politics on the show. I think that one of the major problems this nation suffers from is the lack of political dialogue that we have. The left has been silenced, and the Right has for too long been allowed to get away with vast distortions, dissembling and whoppers such as the tripe that is the regular fare on the Rush Limbaugh Lie-fest. Whatever this nonsense it, it ain't dialogue, debate or intelligent discussion. Re: I listened to an interview with an Iraqi who had been tortured the interviewer described the sickening scars and ill healed broken bones .We all have seen the photos of the piles of dead killed by poison gas...Fake? How about all the civilians the U.S. Department of Death napalmed in World War II, Korea, Viet Nam and Iraq? Have we seen those photos of atrocities committed in our name? How about the results of our indiscriminate daisy cutter bombing in Afghanistan? Have we been shown the devastation to civilian populations that our forces regularly impose on "brown" people across the planet? Do we get accurate photo-reporting? Or do we get press pools where the Department of Death trot reporters and photographers out to sanitized zones in the killing fields, as they did in the aftermath of the Gulf War? It is naive to think that all the atrocities are committed by the other side. Reality is, the U.S. military has a pretty atrocious record, too. Just some thoughts on the madness of our modern world... -Ray