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To: AC Flyer who wrote (27310)	1/11/2003 12:05:54 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 74559

<The US loves foreigners - we send them green paper and they send us cars, stereos, DVD players, coffee, lumber, etc.> Uncle Sam even saves on the printing costs these days. I've got a Tonka Truckload of pixelated dollars and just a few actual weirdo-looking bits of paper saying "We have got our fingers crossed and are Trusting to God that this lurk continues". Uncle Sam gave up the "We Trust in Gold" line decades ago. He saw the value of the ethereal above the material. Increasingly, the value in the world is in the abstract, not the tangible: software, ASICs, money, music, law, trust, curiosity, capability, memory, Google, mind. The old eternal verities of land, conquest, cattle, horses, swords, ploughshares, castles, ships and stuff are beings subsumed by the new world of phragmented photons. With 1 billion Indians and many others still out of the loop, the US$ has got a longggggg way to go before it runs out of cannon fodder. Well before the US$ runs out of cannon fodder, the Q cybercurrency, living in cyberspace, and available to the owner via phragmented photons everywhere or good old-fashioned wired and fibred networks, documented in multiple servers and transferred at the command of the owner by an instruction to send and a confirmation by iris, will have taken over. Uncle Al's Empire will have dwindled to a position much like gold = an interesting anachronism with a few remaining acolytes. Mqurice

To: AC Flyer who wrote (27310)	1/11/2003 3:42:51 PM
From: Moominoid	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Net immigration into Australia is also about 200,000 per year. Legal immigration is half that. I'd suspect there is a net outflow of Australians too. The UK is far more xenophobic than the US or Australia. In the latter two countries the problem is with people cheating the system. They are the ones resented. Probably the official immigration system is too restrictive. But it seems unfair that people like me who play according to the rules have a relatively hard time and others just disappear into the underground economy and wait for an amnesty.

To: AC Flyer who wrote (27310)	1/12/2003 9:24:34 PM
From: elmatador	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

One wouldn't spend USD300 billion on "defense" if it wasn't afraid, would it? I am the one who proposes spending greenbacks -the USD60billion calculated as the cost of Iraq's war- in an scheme which allow every Iraqi adult (who could prove he was living there for at least one year) to receive USD3.700 if they topple Saddam in 48 hours. But the biggest recipients of us 'aid' are Egypt and Israel. Most of it military aid. Just look what is happening there. No. I don't take Brazilian upper classes as evidence. Brazilians have only formalities to fulfill to enter in the US and don't take the US serious. So they continue going there as usual. I mean Asians of any origin. Those are the bulk of people who help the US universities cost lower to the locals since they pay much more in tuition than the locals do. Those are the ones seeking UK and Aussie universities. CONCLUSION: The US is working against their own self interest with these job-for-the-boys scheme called defense, internal or otherwise.