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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (157923)	1/13/2003 12:58:03 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1585079

Ted, <Have you considered that when we are truly sure, it may be too late?> No, actually I think in terms of the environment, we'll know for sure before it's too late. No doubt there will be a lot of uncomfortable changes before, during, and after. And I think anticipating such changes before they become really drastic should be the goal of environmentalism. That's more practical than saying the sky is falling. And that's what environmentalists are trying to do only to be derided and painted as cassandras by the likes of the D. Rays. Back to the NW Street of Dreams. Buying an "environment-friendly" home does not make you an environmentalist any more than eating a few carrots makes you a vegetarian. It's not a huge sacrifice for someone who can afford a $1.5M home to choose an "environment-friendly" one over a home that isn't advertised as such. But ask that person to give up his gas-guzzling Corvette and Land Rover SUV, and you'll probably get a very negative reaction. Not for one moment did I think the Street of Dreams was a sign of potent environmentalism. But what I do think is that the way you pointed it out suggested that it is representative of the NW's environmental movement.....shallow and ineffective.......when the reality is quite the opposite. I venture to say there are few cities in the country where recycling bins exist everywhere including in schools and public buildings. There is no other city in the US like Portland which has created a no build green belt around it, or like Seattle, where it is vebotim to develop the farmland surrounding it. Few cities of its size have the light rail system that Portland has or the bus system that Seattle has. The list goes on and on.....that's why I felt you were trivializing what is going on here. The NW is a leader in this area and does not deserve to be demeaned. Not that I'm ridiculing the efforts of the home builder. I think it's exciting and admirable to see new home-building techniques that favor efficiency and impact the environment less. It's good engineering, and it drives further innovation in that area. And the Street of Dreams is the perfect place to model a home that employs such techniques. I think you need to reread what you wrote.......it did sound like you were ridiculing both the builder and the buyers of those homes. But I'm puzzled when you take offense at a light-hearted example of token environmentalism. I thought you'd be against tokenism, especially in this issue that you obviously hold dear to your heart. Instead, you saw it as a blanket condemnation of the NW's environmentalism. Makes me wonder why you flipped your lid like you did. The way I look at it is that anything that benefits the environment is worth it no matter how small the effort. Getting people who like to consume environmental friendly is the hardest nut to crack so even the small efforts shown by this project which serves that hard to crack group can be appreciated. As for "flipping my lid", whether you intended to or not, I think you gave a wrong impression of what environmentalism means to the NW. And I don't ever like it when people's hard work and efforts is trivialized. Does that make my reaction any clearer? ted Enter symbols or keywords for search: QuotesStock TalkChartsNewsPeople Symbol Lookup Subject Titles Only Full Text Go to Top Terms of Use Got a comment, question or suggestion? Contact Silicon Investor.