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Pastimes : The Boxing Ring Revived -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: one_less who wrote (3679)1/13/2003 8:47:24 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 7720
 
And trying to pull a different strand from a pretty worn topic... the tendency toward dehumanization by one side toward another (not just on this topic but on most where human needs are juxtaposed).

The dehumanization question has been discussed before. My postion has been that our humanity requires dignity, intelligence, and the freedom to make our own choices. I recognize that those who see a fetus as a person will see dehumanization in terms of life and death rather than in quality of life. I recognize that those who believe we must wait for God to take us, no matter that we suffer humbling dehumanization as we wait for death to take us also see it that way. Well, we disagree. I assure you that my interest is totally focused on maximizing our humanization, as I interpret it. You can legitimately challenge my interpretation of dehumanization, but not my aversion to it.

As an aside, I've just returned from spending three weeks with my 89 year old father whose systems are just now starting to fail. He's going around with a catheter and a bag. And having trouble interacting in his best interests with his medical providers but not yet willing to acknowledge that. I've had plenty of occasion to reflect on dehumanization of late...

Not to take anything away from the mother and father who may suffer greatly but what about the kid who suffered damage?

I'm not taking anything away from the kid. The kid can sue once he's born for damage suffered in utero at the hands of the puncher. After he is born, he can suffer and he can sue. Before he's born, he has no standing. The salient basis for criminal action at the time of the punch is damage to born persons, namely the fetus's parents.