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Politics : Long Live The Death Penalty! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Bill who wrote (168)	1/14/2003 8:30:46 AM
From: LPS5	Respond to of 828

The stats you just posted are not relevant to the issue of deterrence. Of course they are - there's no correlation between the crime rate and the number of people executed. You are, of course, welcome to refute this if you choose to. Preferably with a better reason than, "Because I say so." LPS5

To: Bill who wrote (168)	1/14/2003 9:44:40 AM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 828

If I remember correctly you misinterpreted those stats which actually proved the opposite. I recall as well that Canadian murders had dropped something like 30% in the 30 years after dropping the death penalty. I could show you stats from State after State, and country after country, to make what is intuitively obvious even clearer: The rate of murders is not dependent on penalties. The act of murder is the ultimate act of defiance against social norms. It is an act of derangement in one form or another. Canada has no death penalty, but nobody is driving or luring their victims over here to do them. Likewise, the States without death penalties have less murder rates overall than those with the death penalty. They take them in whatever State they are in: in the bedroom, in the pool, in the car, in the drug house, in the nightclub. Generally they are half pissed on drugs, alcohol, or psychotic invincibility...or just pure hate and rage. If they are police in a theft ring or security guards robbing the Brinks, they have thought the matter through and believe themselves capable of eluding identification and capture. Murder is a much higher fence to leap over tha the fear of getting caught. When you hurdle the one, the other is barely off the ground. Well, I will leave you with this for 3 or 4 days as I am extremely busy. Have fun. Everybody give er Hell...