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To: LindyBill who wrote (66262)	1/15/2003 7:28:26 PM
From: Win Smith	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 281500

Frum stated in his book that the reason Tom Ridge, (who Bush really likes) did not get the VP slot was his pro-choice position. The real struggle, IMO, in the Republican party is to get rid of this issue Good luck on that one. The neocons are nothing if not dedicated on that front. From an unlikely source: But there is one issue above all others at the center of this new conservatism. That issue is not adultery or even homosexuality, although both have come to play a significant part in it. It is abortion. Its importance to the new generation of conservative intellectuals is easily underestimated, and far too easily ascribed simply to the influence of religious activists. In fact, abortion is at the center of current Republican orthodoxy as much because of conservative intellectuals as evangelical activists. Since this may not be self-evident, I'll let one of those intellectuals stress it himself. Here is a writer in The Standard, taking a rare break earlier this year from the Lewinsky obsession: Republicans talk a lot about being a majority party, about becoming a governing party, about shaping a conservative future. Roe and abortion are the test. For if Republicans are incapable of grappling with this moral and political challenge; if they cannot earn a mandate to overturn Roe and move toward a post-abortion America, then in truth, there will be no conservative future. Other issues are important, to be sure, and a governing party will have to show leadership on those issues as well. But Roe is central.. . . Who wrote this paragraph? Pat Robertson? Patrick Buchanan? Randy Tate? The answer, again, is William Kristol. His seamless merging of the Lewinsky scandal with the right's other social concerns is perhaps what makes him so integral to the new conservatism. Always, however, the key social issue is abortion. He put the argument most revealingly in the February 1997 issue of the neoconservative political monthly Commentary. ''The truth is,'' Kristol wrote, ''that abortion is today the bloody crossroads of American politics. It is where judicial liberation (from the Constitution), sexual liberation (from traditional mores) and women's liberation (from natural distinctions) come together. It is the focal point for liberalism's simultaneous assault on self-government, morals and nature. So, challenging the judicially imposed regime of abortion-on-demand is key to a conservative reformation in politics, in morals, and in beliefs.'' andrewsullivan.com

To: LindyBill who wrote (66262)	1/15/2003 9:21:30 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Respond to of 281500

think the Libertarian economic ideas are the reason. They will not vote for the "Class Warfare" that the Dems are selling. They may not be rich, but they think rich. I think this issue, more than any other, is going to give the Republicans a long term advantage over the Dems. IMO the jury's out who will get the "eagle" vote: fiscally conservative, socially liberal, in foreign policy a bit hawkish, in domestic policy a bit libertarian. I see them as a swing vote being courted by both sides, at home in neither.