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To: jim black who wrote (27502)	1/16/2003 4:32:46 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

<It is by a member of the Cromagnon community and dates to something in excess of 20,000 years B.C.E. Fossil records show no significant difference in skeletal structure between us and them.> Hi Jim, being an international expert on neurology, I can say that just as the housing of the original IBM PC, as used by Charlie Chaplin, is much the same size as the latest Intel Pentium 4 intel.com; the housing of the Cromagnon stone man was much the same as Irwin Jacobs' cranial bone form. But I'd bet $10 to a knob of camel dung that Mr Cromagnon wouldn't phragment a CDMA photon in a thousand years, even if he was surrounded by all the stuff as a necessary prelude, including attempts to educate him [even if you selected the 99.999th percentile magnon]. Similarly, the Charlie Chaplin PC simply can't do in a decade, the stuff my little notebook does without a blink. BTW, Uncle Al KBE says he doesn't resile from a word of his original gold review which people are keen to quote [but seem to constantly misunderstand]. I'm not aware of him saying there's anything wrong with gold. Mqurice

To: jim black who wrote (27502)	1/16/2003 12:09:43 PM
From: LLCF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

<On my livingroom wall hangs a reproduction of a painting of a buffalo copied to silk screen print from the a cave at Altamira, Spain. It is by a member of the Cromagnon community and dates to something in excess of 20,000 years B.C.E. Fossil records show no significant difference in skeletal structure between us and them. Similar paintings have been found in several places elsewhere in Spain and in France that are even older based on carbon dating. I gaze daily at that picture over my morning coffee and see no difference in yearning, no different an appreciation of power or awe of nature in the mind leaving its ancient mark upon those dank, buried walls lo these many millinnia from the mind inside my head, or yours, or inside the poets, artists, searchers, all of us we have any record of. > Supposedly in a state of pure 'presence' [strived for by Zen masters] one is supposedly in a state of 'no thought' which seems to be what Jaynes is saying people were in at that time. This is also believed even by many western psychologists to be the state of being in 'the zone', which masters of sport, art, and other fields are in when creating. So IMO the Buffalo painting may actually support Jaynes. JMO DAK