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To: JohnM who wrote (66370)	1/16/2003 11:14:51 AM
From: John Carragher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

John I expect some pull down in U. S. troops in South Korea as part of bargaining with North Korea... nk will back off , us , china will step up aide. we will pull some troops out making both south and north korea happy.. I doubt we will lose face..

To: JohnM who wrote (66370)	1/16/2003 11:44:36 AM
From: aladin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

JohnM, If you wish to argue that foreign policy discussions are too partisan, that arguments are too often discussed not on their merits but on their political lineage, and that the debate on the merits of proposals is often lost, I could not agree more. Agreed :-) On South Korea - if they don't view the North as a threat - why should we? I would never risk American lives to protect people who don't like us and don't want the protection. Our only concern should be their (NK's) propensity to proliferate. The 'strategic' nature of Korea is an anachronism of the Cold War - it has no strategic value to the United States other than economic impact as a trading partner. On the issue on 'loss of life' - why do we care? We haven't done anything for the millions dead in the North (or in Africa). Do we really wish to see this kind of proliferation of nuclear weapons? I don't think so. Why the issue John? You argue at times that the Iraqi's or North Koreans's are states with similar rights to the US and we should be treated equal. We cannot pre-empt from your perspective - so what do we do? Sanctions? If I were Taiwanese - I would be developing nukes and missiles in a hurry. Ditto for Japan (but they already have the missile technology and the fissile material). By not acting with their client - thats exactly what the Chinese will get. And in this case it is not our fault - the strategic opening is for China to play statesman - not Bush (although I agree that this administration dropped the ball in Korea). The reasonable compromise? What existed before - a US protective umbrella over SK, Taiwan and Japan - and a Chinese umbrella over North Korea. Maybe a peace treaty finally on the Korean War. John