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To: michael97123 who wrote (66425)	1/16/2003 3:47:14 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 281500

Mike, I'm not talking about how folk are likely to feel after this is over. I'm not nearly as optimistic as you are. But that's neither here nor there. What those folk are worried about is not only the costs of war but two things, just to take this one step further. The first is whether the justifications offered are sufficient if their sons, daughters, husbands, wives die as a result (or trying to put themselves in the shoes of those who would have close relations in harms way). The second is that, given the lack of serious, sensible justification, whether this prospective war fits within the earlier, publicly declared preemptive strike doctrine of the Bushies. They don't like that and are more than a little angry about it (well, to be fair the level of anger varies a great deal). And don't see that as a justification for the deaths that will follow from the invasion. I should add that anger is, to some degree, an equal opportunity anger. It's directed against, as well, those Democratic members of the Senate who failed to take their duties sufficiently seriously to force a public debate on these issues last fall. But that's another story. Let me add, quickly, that one of the things wrong with our discussions here on SI is that they don't mirror much besides themselves. While it looks as if there is strong, wide, and deep support for an Iraqi invasion, if you read SI; if you ask around in other climes, it varies a great deal. Mostly confusion. I'm not talking about the "general public" in my little note; I'm rather responding to your earlier points about "reasonableness" and trying to offer the views of some quite reasonable folk that I run into in the library, over coffee breaks, in e-mails with relatives, trips back to my old campus, what not.