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To: carranza2 who wrote (66551)	1/17/2003 11:53:29 AM
From: michael97123	Respond to of 281500

Another slogan that sickened me while i marched against the war. "Ho Ho Ho Chi Minh The vietcong is gonna win." Extreme left and/or self hating americans trying to coopt the liberal anti vietnam war movement. Hope well meaning opponents of the coming? iraq war, know that some of their friends may be far worse than their enemies(bush admin). Care is called for in reading the propaganda as well. Anti war folks need to get their facts straight and not fall for the extremist lies. That was my rule during vietnam. mike

To: carranza2 who wrote (66551)	1/17/2003 12:09:25 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

The anti-war folks and their arguments are a throw-back to the Sixties. A not-even-clever way to avoid the issues raised by folk who have qualms about invading Iraq without sufficient justifications.

To: carranza2 who wrote (66551)	1/17/2003 9:36:46 PM
From: epsteinbd	Respond to of 281500

Hi Carranza. ""Had the Vietnam war been totally unjustified"", or had the US lost it in a couple of years, the whole SE Asia would have followed; as the only decent army around, the Thai one, had its generals and high administration ready to abandon ship. Such a takeover would, IMO, have saved the Soviets for another generation yet, or more. But once the Chinese and Russians realised that they couldn't even feed their own people and take over their own natural Florida, they called it quits soon enough. Thus I did see this war as a US strategic victory. I'll admit though that none of my friends on either side of the Atlantic shared this analysis. To a certain extend, the actual conflict fits that same pattern with many of the same actors. I find it amusing that my US friends who were, then, sitting it out in Marrakech, (some even occupying my house - peacefully, because Canada was too cold, still take it to the streets nowadays.