To: TimF who wrote (158311 ) 1/18/2003 3:42:08 PM From: tejek Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574333 So you are saying that being white is inherently discriminatory? That there is something racist on unjust about my skin color? First of all my skin color is the same as your's, and I know I don't discriminate. So that's not what I am saying. What I am saying is that racial prejudice and discrimination is alive and well in these united states. Did you not read the article I posted recently that said if your name isn't 'white' on your resume, you are less likely to get a call? And its not confined just to whites but its mostly with whites discriminating against others; but of course, you know all that.More likely you mean to say that there is also nothing inherently discriminatory about affirmative action. That doesn't make a lot of sense either. You can argue that affirmative action is justified discrimination, perhaps justified by the past discrimination against blacks, but there is no way you can reasonably say that AA is not racial discrimination. I did not say that AA is not "inherently discriminatory"; I agree that it permits a bias in the selection process......no question. But that's understandable when you realize it has to overcome nearly 200 years of discrimination and suppression. Furthermore, whites have found ways to get around some of its preferential treatment of people of color so that its not nearly as effective as once hoped. That fact is evidenced by 2000 demographics. While eco. conditions have improved for minorities, most [with the exception of Asians, particularly fat cat Tenchusatsa] still lag considerably behind whites. And finally, even Mr. Bush is treading lightly when it comes to AA. Apparently, what he said in his speech is not what is written in the administration's position paper on the subject. It seems his hard line speech was intended to placate the most conservative elements of the GOP.....you, Ray and Harris et al......while the paper itself deals a little more with the reality. ted