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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (66762)	1/18/2003 2:16:07 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Respond to of 281500

I heard a BBC interview with a Church of England bishop last night (didn't catch the name). The bishop explained that he opposed Blair's position on Iraq because the proposed war a) did not have UN approval, which he regarded as a necessary legal stand-in for international approval, and b) did not meet the criteria for a just war, since Saddam was not an imminent threat to Britain. Then he added, but I fully supported Blair's action in Kosovo, which was brilliant. Now I am thinking, Hello? Did Kosovo have UN approval? Was Milosevic an imminent threat to Britain? Aren't you a bit embarrassed putting forth such an inconsistent standard? The one thing you can say is that Saddam is not gassing the Kurds right this minute (our no-fly zones, also sans UN approval, prevent it). He's just done it in the past and would obviously do it in the future if he could. But if that is your real standard, you ought to just say so, and stop raising red herrings.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (66762)	1/18/2003 2:26:59 PM
From: BigBull	Respond to of 281500

Whatever happened to all that "Arab Brotherhood" displayed at the last disastrous Arab League confab. You know, the one where the Iraqi and Saudi ambassadors engaged in their all too public smoochfest? Gee, the NYT is now saying the Saudi's are giving us permission to what? Gasp! it will cooperate extensively with an American military buildup in the Persian Gulf, including offering the use of crucial bases and airspace, Saudi officials said this week. Imo the rest of the article presents nothing new, and thus I've not printed the whole thing. Saudi Arabian Leaders Press for Iraqi Forces to Oust Hussein By PATRICK E. TYLER nytimes.com RIYADH, Saudi Arabia, Jan. 18 — Increasingly desperate to avoid war, Saudi Arabia is engaged in a campaign to incite Iraqi security forces to overthrow Saddam Hussein if he continues to refuse to step down or go into exile, officials here say. The Saudi leadership is advocating Mr. Hussein's removal as part of a war-avoidance strategy even as the kingdom signals Washington that it will cooperate extensively with an American military buildup in the Persian Gulf, including offering the use of crucial bases and airspace, Saudi officials said this week.