To: Lane3 who wrote (3860 ) 1/19/2003 2:58:56 PM From: Solon Respond to of 7720 "My understanding has always been that knitting needles were the preferred tool " Different countries use different materials. Latin America uses hangars and whatever else is to hand. I guess I could understand looking up the mountain sides of Carracas at the millions of people living in 10 x 10 lean-tos, and who never travel more than 5 miles in any direction, that knitting needles might be rather rare...but there is always something."I'd bet that most would do the deed themselves or with a trusted friend or local "midwife," using the emergency room as a backup in case of hemorrhage " I would bet that specially designed apparatus, herbs, "massagers" and other product kits designed for various "household tasks" would flood the market if it was ruled that a woman did not have the right to her body. Here is a really excellent collation of basic and interesting information. Well worth reading:cbctrust.com "Women needing an abortion at that time were confused about its legality, and cases of illegal abortion began to appear for the first time in Canada in almost twenty years. In Ontario, a 16-year-old Kitchener girl sustained physical injury from a botched abortion started in a pool hall,185 and a Toronto woman died from a self-induced coathanger abortion. " "in Latin America, abortions are performed with catheters, hangers , knitting needles, caustic substances, toxic herbal teas or drugs. In Brazil, 400,000 women are admitted to hospital each year from "hanger" abortions and the like."Abortions are performed in illegal clinics and in back alleys. Many women attempt abortions by themselves, with knitting needles, clothes hangers , the stem of a castor plant,155 ingesting teas or herbs, or more recently, the drug misoprostol. At least 400,000 women are admitted to hospitals each year to recuperate from abortion attempts, making this the second leading cause of admission to state hospitals.156 Deaths are common. "