To: Mani1 who wrote (158457 ) 1/20/2003 2:36:18 AM From: tejek Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575725 Re << if there had not been centuries of discrimination in this country, I would agree with your position. However, that's not the case, and your outrage doesn't change anything nor make anything better. In fact, your outrage is two hundred years to late.>> The outrage for racism is indeed late. It should have been there 200 years ago. Unfortunately it was not. Lets not make the same mistake again. Since we both agree outrage is too late, then I think you do the next best thing......which is to mitigate the negative results caused by the lack of outrage 200 years ago. Let me ask you (or anyone else reading) a question. Lets say your wife or kid was in a life and death situation and needed medical attention. Would you pick a white doctor that you know is there due to his qualification, or would you pick a black doctor who could be there due to affirmative action. How would AA manage to pull this one off? The benefits of AA may get a minority into a particular school but the minority has to do the work or he/she flunks out. And medical school is the most rigorous program in academia. Actually, there is a possibility of the reverse. Not all white MDs get thru school based on hard work. And even if they did, there is no guarantee they will be a competent MD. That's why they suggest you get several opinions. On the news tonite, Harris was pointing out some woman got a double mastectomy and she didn't have cancer. And just last month, I heard on the news that in Boston, some white MD left in the middle of an operation to make a bank deposit because he was worried he would bounce a check and he didn't know what time the bank closed. One must always be on the lookout for incompetency, AA notwithstanding.Now how would you want to be a black doctor who was there not due to affirmative action, but due to his qualification, and had his qualifications questioned because he was black. Who does affirmative action help? I question all professionals on their qualifications. I think asking questions never hurts anyone. And if the person is insulted, he/she will get over it. And frankly, I am a little more at ease with professionals who are minority or women because they had to work a little harder to overcome societal biases. Furthermore, I think while AA is an imperfect solution to a major screwup, its not the horror show that some would have us believe. If anyone paid any attention to the comments made by the U of M administrators the past few days, we would know that. ted