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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (67124)	1/20/2003 1:50:44 AM
From: KLP	Respond to of 281500

One of his best columns, IMO! America is indeed a melting pot....as some in the world, and in America, tend to forget. >>>>There is something truly sickening in the sight of people who call themselves liberals* finding more fault in America than in the brutal, misogynist, homophobic, anti-Semitic dictatorships who are now pitted against the West<<<< >>>>But disdain for what? America? The very idea, I came to realize, is preposterous. America is many things - now, perhaps, more than ever. It is rural Alabama and urban San Francisco. It is Michael Moore and Jerry Falwell. It's Colin Powell and Don Rumsfeld. It's MTV and the right to bear arms. It's a country that still won't accept a one-dollar coin but embraced the Internet with the enthusiasm of a teenage crush. It's cowboy country in Wyoming and Little Havana in Miami. It's Rambo and the "Sopranos." It's Little Vietnam in the exurbs of Virginia and mega-churches in suburban Houston. Anyone who despises all this despises not America but humanity. And humanity in one of the most daring multicultural, multiracial experiments in human history. <<<< * Note from KLP....just insert Americans here...leave political terms out....

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (67124)	1/20/2003 10:30:02 AM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Interesting Sullivan essay but he makes the same mistake a good many such columnists do these days. He portrays widespread dismay, in Europe and the US, at the foreign policy pronouncements of the Bush administration and its "pre-emptive" doctrines as anti-American. Forgotten in all this is the very high levels of sympathy following 9-11, to the point of the NATO vote to consider it an attack on all NATO members. Bush's actions and policies since have waisted that moment. That's what these demonstrations are about. Forget a few slogans, a few statements, a few placards. This would not have happened in the immediate wake of 9-11 and would not have happened had we pursued Al Qaeda without a doctrine of pre-emptive attack, without a hauty dismissal of treaties such as the Kyoto treaty, etc. Now, either deliberately or not, these kinds of columns try to turn one's gaze from the object of the protests, the Bush administration, to some phantom called "Anti-American" which is some sort of sickness of the left, or far left, or extreme left, surely somebody.