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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Dan B. who wrote (2519)	1/20/2003 1:30:21 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

Re: I recall that you believe 911 was carried out by "Bushies" and other tyrannical forces from within I have said no such thing. I subscribe to the LIHOP theory, that the Bushies "let it happen on purpose": truthout.org The exception to that being that the purported claim of the impact of Flight 77 on the Pentagon seems to be a fraud. Sources of doubt about the "official" story include but are not limited to the following: armytimes.com navytimes.com asile.org asile.org thepowerhour.com amazon.fr unansweredquestions.net 911timeline.net geocities.com When you realize that the Department of In-Justice is actively engaged in suppressing information related to the events surrounding 9/11, you ought to become deeply alarmed at the role the U.S. government played in the events surrounding the 9/11 tragedy. ************************ Re: ahhh, but didn't you say the 911 pilots who crashed planes around our country were heroic?). Please send me your address so I can start the legal proceedings against you for libel. Thanks. What I did say was that I was in agreement with "Politically Incorrect"'s Bill Maher that the purported hijackers, if indeed there were any, acted in a courageous fashion. It takes cojones to be a kamikaze. Would you do it? I sure wouldn't. I never said it was heroic. Quite the opposite. It was a dastardly deed and reprehensible. ****************** A reflection on the nature of this debate..... While I continually present reference materials supporting my argument, you steadfastly neglect to do so. Preferring it would seem to merely make assertions without any backing whatsoever. I find it a curious thing. As if you prefer to live in a world devoid of fact. A world in which ideology and faith trump reality. I feel sorry for you that you have to inhabit such a fantasy land. It makes you a readily identifiable target for con men, frauds and manipulators like the Bushista Junta. Pith, nothing less. Salaams, Ray

To: Dan B. who wrote (2519)	1/20/2003 3:38:38 PM
From: Fangorn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

Dan, re pith I think the word you wanted was "piffle". piffle - intr. v; to talk or act in a feeble or futile way. - n; foolish or futile talk or ideas. The noun definition perfectly describes most of what Naked Ray has ever posted. pith - n; 1. Botany. The soft, spongelike substance in the center of stems and branches of most vascular plants. 2. the essential or central part of anything; essence; gist. 3. Force; strength; vigor. Naked Ray is a prime example of "unpith" under definitions 2 and 3. He may however be full of "soft, spongelike substance". ggg pith -