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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: PartyTime who wrote (2609)1/20/2003 9:01:06 PM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 25898
 
SEYMOUR HERSH ON NORTH KOREAN & PAKISTANI NUCLEAR WEAPONS PROGRAMS, Part 1

BUSH SAT ON EVIDENCE FOR POLITICAL GAIN

newyorker.com

THE COLD TEST
by SEYMOUR M. HERSH
What the Administration knew about Pakistan and the North Korean nuclear program.
Issue of 2003-01-27 Posted 2003-01-20

Last June, four months before the current crisis over North Korea became public, the Central Intelligence Agency delivered a comprehensive analysis of North Korea's nuclear ambitions to President Bush and his top advisers. The document, known as a National Intelligence Estimate, was classified as Top Secret S.C.I. (for "sensitive compartmented information"), and its distribution within the government was tightly restricted. The C.I.A. report made the case that North Korea had been violating international law—and agreements with South Korea and the United States—by secretly obtaining the means to produce weapons-grade uranium.

The document's most politically sensitive information, however, was about Pakistan. Since 1997, the C.I.A. said, Pakistan had been sharing sophisticated technology, warhead-design information, and weapons-testing data with the Pyongyang regime. Pakistan, one of the Bush Administration's important allies in the war against terrorism, was helping North Korea build the bomb.

In 1985, North Korea signed the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, which led to the opening of most of its nuclear sites to international inspection. By the early nineteen-nineties, it became evident to American intelligence agencies and international inspectors that the North Koreans were reprocessing more spent fuel than they had declared, and might have separated enough plutonium, a reactor by-product, to fabricate one or two nuclear weapons. The resulting diplomatic crisis was resolved when North Korea's leader, Kim Jong Il, entered into an agreement with the Clinton Administration to stop the nuclear-weapons program in return for economic aid and the construction of two light-water nuclear reactors that, under safeguards, would generate electricity.

Within three years, however, North Korea had begun using a second method to acquire fissile material. This time, instead of using spent fuel, scientists were trying to produce weapons-grade uranium from natural uranium—with Pakistani technology. One American intelligence official, referring to the C.I.A. report, told me, "It points a clear finger at the Pakistanis. The technical stuff is crystal clear—not hedged and not ambivalent." Referring to North Korea's plutonium project in the early nineteen-nineties, he said, "Before, they were sneaking." Now "it's off the wall. We know they can do a lot more and a lot more quickly."

North Korea is economically isolated; one of its main sources of export income is arms sales, and its most sought-after products are missiles. And one of its customers has been Pakistan, which has a nuclear arsenal of its own but needs the missiles to more effectively deliver the warheads to the interior of its rival, India. In 1997, according to the C.I.A. report, Pakistan began paying for missile systems from North Korea in part by sharing its nuclear-weapons secrets. According to the report, Pakistan sent prototypes of high-speed centrifuge machines to North Korea. And sometime in 2001 North Korean scientists began to enrich uranium in significant quantities. Pakistan also provided data on how to build and test a uranium-triggered nuclear weapon, the C.I.A. report said.

It had taken Pakistan a decade of experimentation, and a substantial financial investment, before it was able to produce reliable centrifuges; with Pakistan's help, the North Koreans had "chopped many years off" the development process, the intelligence official noted. It is not known how many centrifuges are now being operated in North Korea or where the facilities are. (They are assumed to be in underground caves.) The Pakistani centrifuges, the official said, are slim cylinders, roughly six feet in height, that could be shipped "by the hundreds" in cargo planes. But, he added, "all Pakistan would have to do is give the North Koreans the blueprints. They are very sophisticated in their engineering." And with a few thousand centrifuges, he said, "North Korea could have enough fissile material to manufacture two or three warheads a year, with something left over to sell."

A former senior Pakistani official told me that his government's contacts with North Korea increased dramatically in 1997; the Pakistani economy had foundered, and there was "no more money" to pay for North Korean missile support, so the Pakistani government began paying for missiles by providing "some of the know-how and the specifics." Pakistan helped North Korea conduct a series of "cold tests," simulated nuclear explosions, using natural uranium, which are necessary to determine whether a nuclear device will detonate properly. Pakistan also gave the North Korean intelligence service advice on "how to fly under the radar," as the former official put it—that is, how to hide nuclear research from American satellites and U.S. and South Korean intelligence agents.

Whether North Korea had actually begun to build warheads was not known at the time of the 1994 crisis and is still not known today, according to the C.I.A. report. The report, those who have read it say, included separate and contradictory estimates from the C.I.A., the Pentagon, the State Department, and the Department of Energy regarding the number of warheads that North Korea might have been capable of making, and provided no consensus on whether or not the Pyongyang regime is actually producing them.

Over the years, there have been sporadic reports of North Korea's contacts with Pakistan, most of them concerning missile sales. Much less has been known about nuclear ties. In the past decade, American intelligence tracked at least thirteen visits to North Korea made by A. Q. Khan, who was then the director of a Pakistani weapons-research laboratory, and who is known as the father of the Pakistani nuclear bomb. This October, after news of the uranium program came out, the Times ran a story suggesting that Pakistan was a possible supplier of centrifuges to North Korea. General Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan's leader, attacked the account as "absolutely baseless," and added, "There is no such thing as collaboration with North Korea in the nuclear area." The White House appeared to take the Musharraf statement at face value. In November, Secretary of State Colin Powell told reporters he had been assured by Musharraf that Pakistan was not currently engaging in any nuclear transactions with North Korea. "I have made clear to him that any . . . contact between Pakistan and North Korea we believe would be improper, inappropriate, and would have consequences," Powell said. "President Musharraf understands the seriousness of the issue." After that, Pakistan quickly faded from press coverage of the North Korea story.

The Bush Administration may have few good options with regard to Pakistan, given the country's role in the war on terror. Within two weeks of September 11th, Bush lifted the sanctions that had been imposed on Pakistan because of its nuclear-weapons activities. In the view of American disarmament experts, the sanctions had in any case failed to deal with one troubling issue: the close ties between some scientists working for the Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission and radical Islamic groups. "There is an awful lot of Al Qaeda sympathy within Pakistan's nuclear program," an intelligence official told me. One American nonproliferation expert said, "Right now, the most dangerous country in the world is Pakistan. If we're incinerated next week, it'll be because of H.E.U."—highly enriched uranium—"that was given to Al Qaeda by Pakistan."

Pakistan's relative poverty could pose additional risks. In early January, a Web-based Pakistani-exile newspaper opposed to the Musharraf government reported that, in the past six years, nine nuclear scientists had emigrated from Pakistan—apparently in search of better pay—and could not be located.

An American intelligence official I spoke with called Pakistan's behavior the "worst nightmare" of the international arms-control community: a Third World country becoming an instrument of proliferation. "The West's primary control of nuclear proliferation was based on technology denial and diplomacy," the official said. "Our fear was, first, that a Third World country would develop nuclear weapons indigenously; and, second, that it would then provide the technology to other countries. This is profound. It changes the world." Pakistan's nuclear program flourished in the nineteen-eighties, at a time when its military and intelligence forces were working closely with the United States to repel the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. The official said, "The transfer of enrichment technology by Pakistan is a direct outgrowth of the failure of the United States to deal with the Pakistani program when we could have done so. We've lost control."

The C.I.A. report remained unpublicized throughout the summer and early fall, as the Administration concentrated on laying the groundwork for a war with Iraq. Many officials in the Administration's own arms-control offices were unaware of the report. "It was held very tightly," an official told me. "Compartmentalization is used to protect sensitive sources who can get killed if their information is made known, but it's also used for controlling sensitive information for political reasons."

One American nonproliferation expert said that, given the findings in the June report, he was dismayed that the Administration had not made the information available. "It's important to convey to the American people that the North Korean situation presented us with an enormous military and political crisis," he said. "This goes to the heart of North Asian security, to the future of Japan and South Korea, and to the future of the broader issue of nonproliferation."

A Japanese diplomat who has been closely involved in Korean affairs defended the Bush Administration's delay in publicly dealing with the crisis. Referring to the report, he said, "If the intelligence assessment was correct, you have to think of the implications. Disclosure of information is not always instant. You need some time to assess the content." He added, "To have a dialogue, you really have to find the right time and the right conditions. So far, President Bush has done the right thing, from our perspective." (The White House and the C.I.A. did not respond to requests for comment.)

President Bush's contempt for the North Korean government is well known, and makes the White House's failure to publicize the C.I.A. report or act on it all the more puzzling. In his State of the Union address in January of last year, Bush cited North Korea, along with Iraq and Iran, as part of the "axis of evil." Bob Woodward, in "Bush at War," his book about the Administration's response to September 11th, recalls an interview at the President's Texas ranch in August: " 'I loathe Kim Jong Il!' Bush shouted, waving his finger in the air. 'I've got a visceral reaction to this guy, because he is starving his people.' " Woodward wrote that the President had become so emotional while speaking about Kim Jong Il that "I thought he might jump up."

The Bush Administration was put on notice about North Korea even before it received the C.I.A. report. In January of last year, John Bolton, the Under-Secretary of State for Arms Control, declared that North Korea had a covert nuclear-weapons program and was in violation of the nonproliferation treaty. In February, the President was urged by three members of Congress to withhold support for the two reactors promised to North Korea, on the ground that the Pyongyang government was said to be operating a secret processing site "for the enrichment of uranium." In May, Bolton again accused North Korea of failing to coöperate with the International Atomic Energy Agency, the group responsible for monitoring treaty compliance. Nevertheless, on July 5th the President's national-security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, who presumably had received the C.I.A. report weeks earlier, made it clear in a letter to the congressmen that the Bush Administration would continue providing North Korea with shipments of heavy fuel oil and nuclear technology for the two promised energy-generating reactors.

The Administration's fitful North Korea policy, with its mixture of anger and seeming complacency, is in many ways a consequence of its unrelenting focus on Iraq. Late last year, the White House released a national-security-strategy paper authorizing the military "to detect and destroy an adversary's WMD assets"—weapons of mass destruction—"before these weapons are used." The document argued that the armed forces "must have the capability to defend against WMD-armed adversaries . . . because deterrence may not succeed." Logically, the new strategy should have applied first to North Korea, whose nuclear-weapons program remains far more advanced than Iraq's. The Administration's goal, however, was to mobilize public opinion for an invasion of Iraq. One American intelligence official told me, "The Bush doctrine says MAD"—mutual assured destruction—"will not work for these rogue nations, and therefore we have to preëmpt if negotiations don't work. And the Bush people knew that the North Koreans had already reinvigorated their programs and were more dangerous than Iraq. But they didn't tell anyone. They have bankrupted their own policy—thus far—by not doing what their doctrine calls for."

Iraq's military capacity has been vitiated by its defeat in the Gulf War and years of inspections, but North Korea is one of the most militarized nations in the world, with more than forty per cent of its population under arms. Its artillery is especially fearsome: more than ten thousand guns, along with twenty-five hundred rocket launchers capable of launching five hundred thousand shells an hour, are positioned within range of Seoul, the capital of South Korea. The Pentagon has estimated that all-out war would result in more than a million military and civilian casualties, including as many as a hundred thousand Americans killed. A Clinton Administration official recalled attending a congressional briefing in the mid-nineties at which Army General Gary Luck, the commander of U.S. forces in Korea, laconically said, "Senator, I could win this one for you—but not right away."

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To: PartyTime who wrote (2609)1/20/2003 9:42:28 PM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 25898
 
ATTACK IRAQ? A tale from the annals of military blunders.....

Message 18467930



To: PartyTime who wrote (2609)1/20/2003 9:43:04 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 25898
 
I think it's Bill Clinton's fault. See below.

During? I think raybo found another of the conspiracy sites he so loves. If that's a reliable source, then so is the John Birch Society's rag.

What was shown (via NYT) was that a number of bin Laden's extended family was in the US on 9/11. That I'll accept. Oh, and that they were checked out by the FBI and allowed to leave AFTER commercial flights had resumed.

If you want to apply THAT logic, then FDR was behind Pearl Harbor because his Dep't of State was talking to Japanese in Washington at the time of the attack.

Other than that, I think he proved nothing other than he's schizoid and paranoid. Which we knew previously.

Oh. Yeah. Chelsea was in on it too.
Chelsea Clinton was in NYC at the time of the disaster.Its obvious to all good republicans that she was
guiding the aircraft to their targets using a global positioning device and secret hand signals known
only to the Clinton family members.Bill was in Australia to divert attention from himself,but we all know
he fathered all fifty bin laden children and is hiding Idi Amin in his presidential library in Arkansas.How
do we conservatives know this?Easy. We fire a bullet into a melon and examine the evidence,just like
the Vince Foster case.And what did Hillary have to do with the WTC attack?Nothing.She planned the
Pentagon attack and the War of 1812.

hypocrites.com

Did you check out his most important link?
cooperativeresearch.org
Every crazy left wing screwball conspiracy theory known to man is on there someplace.

I think Raybo needs to read this instead:
brian.carnell.com

Big Brother was watching
sfbg.com
How Bill Clinton laid the groundwork for the new police state.

By A.C. Thompson

LIBERALS ARE AGHAST : the war on terrorism is turning out to be a war on civil liberties. Like a pair of
steroid-crazed pro wrestlers, the Bush-Ashcroft tag team is running amok. They're shredding the Constitution
and handing scary new powers to cops and FBI agents and just about anyone else in law enforcement or
intelligence. "We are all suspects, if Ashcroft has his way," syndicated columnist Molly Ivins howled Dec. 6.

Facing the Senate that same day, the attorney general hunkered down and put on his best John Wayne face,
skewering his critics ("they give ammunition to America's enemies") and hinting that some civil liberties may
have to be thrown out the window. "Preventing terrorism is a very difficult job," Ashcroft said during a hearing
before the Senate Judiciary Committee. "We witnessed this week the carnage in Israel. It's a society that has
far fewer freedoms than we do and has a far greater investment in terrorism prevention. [And] yet 25 innocent
people were slaughtered ... in terrorist activity."

But the Bush-Ashcroft Big Brotherism is nothing startling or new. The USA PATRIOT Act, the military tribunals,
and Ashcroft's plan to expand domestic spying are only a public augmentation of the well-oiled police state
machinery that was already in place.

As we snoozed through the Clinton era, our lovable, sax-playing president was busy deep-sixing legal
protections – often in the name of combating terrorism. He presided over a massive expansion of federal
phone-tapping powers. Signing the 1996 Counter-terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act, our buddy Bill laid
the groundwork for Ashcroft's schemes, eviscerating habeas corpus, one of the cornerstones of our judicial
system, curtailing due process for immigrants, and creating special courts to try terrorists with secret evidence.
Sound familiar? And under Clinton, reinvigorated Red Squads apparently spied on the anticorporate protesters
who rocked the Seattle WTO conference.

Clinton "set the stage" for the current rollback of rights, says Harvey Silverglate, an attorney, author, and
nationally known expert on individual freedoms. "Clinton caved in to the notion that at a time of perceived crisis
or danger it is OK to infringe on civil liberties even if the particular infringement does not produce any added
security. So now we have a situation where Ashcroft can make some of the most dangerous incursions into civil
liberties that we've ever seen, and nobody even notices."

Nobody paid any attention, for example, when the Federal Bureau of Investigations in 1995 published a notice in
the Federal Register stating the bureau's intention to monitor up to 1 percent of all phone calls in certain
regions. Aside from a few lonely civil libertarians, the only people who raised a stink at the time were telecom
executives, annoyed that they were being told to tailor their systems to the FBI's specifications. And as the
Village Voice's Nat Hentoff has noted, a 1998 law greatly eased federal wiretap constraints, giving the bureau
carte blanche to tap any phone a suspected criminal might use within a limited geographic area. Only Georgia
representative Bob Barr, a Republican privacy freak, opposed the measure.

Even before the PATRIOT Act eased phone-tapping rules, the FBI was doing plenty of eavesdropping, says
Jennifer Stisa Granick, an instructor at Stanford law school's Center for Internet and Society.

Granick says the old, pre-PATRIOT Act wiretapping law was "a single-party consent law," which meant FBI
agents couldn't listen in on calls without the knowledge of one of the people on the line or a warrant.
Circumventing that dilemma was simple: agents would seek out informants who would let the bureau eavesdrop
on their phone calls with alleged criminals. Problem solved.

In fact, federal court records obtained by the Bay Guardian suggest that S.F.-based FBI agents used the
technique in July 1998 to overhear the conversations of computer hackers. "This kind of stuff happens all the
time," Granick told us.

For defense lawyers like Scott F. Kauffman, Clinton's 1996 counterterrorism act, which was a response to the
Oklahoma City bombing, "changed the entire legal landscape" – especially in capital cases. "Given the really
limited resources we have, it's created an impossible burden," Kauffman, a San Francisco death penalty
specialist, told us. "It's sped everything up."

The law also marked a proto-PATRIOT assault on immigrants, allowing the Immigration and Naturalization
Service to hastily deport green-card holders convicted of crimes of "moral turpitude" – an amorphous term that
could cover just about any offense. Another provision established secret court proceedings for alleged terrorists,
barring suspects from seeing more than a summary of the evidence arrayed against them.

Ashcroft's publicly stated lust for domestic spying has sent liberals into hysterics. In truth, though, under
Clinton the bureau engaged in COINTELPRO-type political snooping. According to the Seattle Weekly and
numerous other credible alt-press sources, the feds have been keeping tabs on leaders of the new anticorporate
protest movement since at least 1999.

David Solnit can tell you all about it. A seasoned Oakland activist type – he was in the streets during the '84
Democratic Convention – Solnit is apparently on the shit list of the FBI. In June 2000 he journeyed to a
Windsor, Canada, college campus to conduct a workshop on making signs and giant puppets for
demonstrations. The trip took a detour when Solnit was stopped by local cops who had apparently been staking
him out. "They said, 'Are you David Solnit?' " he recounts. "They had an FBI printout of what the FBI thought my
legal history was, which was incredibly inaccurate." Solnit, an avowed pacifist with no history of violence, spent
four days in the local lockup on bunk charges that were later dropped.

From every indication, it looks like the feds had been spying on Solnit and sharing their information with
Canadian authorities.

(For the record, FBI special agent Andrew Black told us, "The FBI absolutely does not keep tabs on
protesters.")

This apparent exercise in espionage doesn't surprise Jim Redden, author of Snitch Culture: How Citizens Are
Turned into the Eyes and Ears of the State. "The restrictions [on domestic spying] that were supposedly placed
on the FBI as a result of Watergate were never very effective," Redden told us. "The FBI quickly figured out
ways around them, and there were agencies like the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms that never were
under those restrictions. Government surveillance never really ended."

So why all this backtracking, you ask? Why choose this moment to take gratuitous potshots at Clinton?

Well, to point out this: the current clampdown – which may profoundly change the way we live – isn't about
George W. Bush. It's not about John Ashcroft or the FBI's Bob Mueller.

The power grab is being driven by the two dictates both political parties hew to. One is appeasement of the
public. Unnerved, we are clamoring for a sense of security – and this could be the ultimate campaign issue.
From Bush on down, if the pols don't deliver, they're likely to be tossed from office – just like Jimmy Carter,
whose inability to liberate the American hostages in Iran was his undoing.

The other dictate is appeasement of the permanent government: the generals, the high-level law enforcers and
agency chieftains – in other words, the people who really run this country. They are seizing this moment to
expand their spheres of influence and fulfill long-standing policy dreams, Constitution be damned. "These
proposals have been in the pipeline for years; that's why they can whip them out so quickly right now,"
Stanford's Granick says.

And it would've been just the same with Al Gore at the wheel.
angelfire.com

As I remember, Ray loves to use these guys to debunk right wing conspiracy theories:
snopes.com
But now that they're chopping at his pet theory, they're not reliable?

This guy thinks Carter's national security advisor started all the trouble.
unansweredquestions.org

Here, this ought to really fuel Ray's paranoia:
pushhamburger.com