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To: JohnM who wrote (67488)	1/21/2003 3:23:28 PM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

John, You have fallen into an interesting place. The left is very wary of who they travel with given what happened with the communists in the 40s and 50s. Many necons cut there political teeth as leftists back then, seemingly naive about the soviet/communist threat. That is the real reason they are so aggressive now. Little to do about Hitler/chamberlain, much to do about Stalin and being fooled. Sub saddam for stalin and you can see how they get to this place whether you agree or not. Mike

To: JohnM who wrote (67488)	1/21/2003 6:16:22 PM
From: stockman_scott	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

molly ivins' latest column... creators.com <<...There's not much historical evidence that war does anyone any good: some rare cases of "just war" under St. Augustine's definition. Mostly war (A) kills a lot of people, causing hard feelings; (B) doesn't solve anything; (C) has hideous unintended consequences that often lead to more war. Avoid war if at all possible is the first rule of statesmanship...>> <<... "History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people." -- Dr. King...>>