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To: Steve Dietrich who wrote (346792)	1/23/2003 4:01:42 PM
From: Johannes Pilch	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

So you equate gays and racists as equally detestable and obscene? That's pathetic. What is pathetic is a guy who, when he is losing an argument, flatly lies about his opponent’s position, falling headlong into mouth-foaming irrational emotionalism instead of addressing the dang thing head on. The issue here has little to do with any person, but with the ideas of homosexuality and racism. Both are ultimately heinous equally in that they both equally deny fundamental human identity. One thing Jews, gays and Blacks have in common is that they've all been persecuted for thousands of years by Christians. Well since many Jews and blacks are Christians themselves, your point obviously dies. And besides, humans are ever working toward harmony with nature. The fact that they don’t always get it right is no legitimate reason to ipso facto declare some natural solidarity between victims such that, as we accept Jews and blacks, we must also accept homosexuality. Jews and blacks are us and nature proves that because any one of us can create humanity by interbreeding with any Jew or black. This is true so long as the natural human order of heterosexuality is maintained. Homosexuality is not us and so we have no obligation, history or otherwise, to accept it. Two of those groups are no longer suitable for use as epithets, one still is. And there is a reason for it. For as long as the different groups have existed, they have all formed unions and families. At sundry times, and in a few places (relatively speaking), some have simply tried not to admit this is what was happening, but the fact was and still is that nature deems all humans to be One Thing. Take a human from Africa and pair him with a human from Norway, and humanity will result as long as the heterosexual order is maintained. Nature does not care one single friggin’ bit where the humans come from as long as the race exists. Indeed, genetic diversity is actually a strength where nature is concerned. Mankind now better understands this and many have seen the folly in denying the humanity of Jews and blacks when through the history of both peoples they have literally formed families with them all. Two down and one to go. You cannot puck wid nature. Never has there been a family, a true family, created with homosexuality as its basis. A homosexual family cannot exist and therefore cannot link with the rest of humanity. It is impossible and always will be. You're on the wrong side of history. And you are on the wrong side of nature. So I win. I am about to ban myself from this friggin' place because this friggin' place is unworthy of my presence. If yall are gonna ban fokes simply for using simple words, then even tawkin' to ya over the dang wire makes me wanna puke. Just because yall are offended by a little dang VALID word like "queer" is just no dang reason for yall to act like such scum.

To: Steve Dietrich who wrote (346792)	1/23/2003 4:17:51 PM
From: PROLIFE	Respond to of 769670

Jews---RACE Blacks(assuming you mean African Americans in this case)----RACE gays-----LIFESTYLE.......prove otherwise. you are pathetic. Christians are not persecuting Jews, Blacks or gays...or football players...or ice cream venders...or murderers....but....I will say that the Bible and the message of Jesus does haunt many. So, unless you can genetically prove the "gay gene" theory...this conversation is over.