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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (68217)1/23/2003 10:10:47 PM
From: tekboy  Respond to of 281500
 
Will this debate be broadcast, or open to the public?

Don't know. It'll be on Feb. 5. I'll be away on vacation then, actually, but if a transcript or video is ever available I'll post it...

quite frankly, I still maintain that a careful read of the Pollack book is pretty much all one needs to think through these issues on one's own. That is, there's a case for war, and a case against war, and in the end both cases have some merit and one's position will depend on one's priorities and how one assesses the various risks involved (of all kinds, for all options). I suppose I might supplement the Pollack with stuff like the Ajami and Betts articles from the most recent FA, which give you some arguments on either side of the basic core. But at this point I doubt that there's much a pissing match between two sets of knife-wielding partisans will do much to convince folks here of something they don't already think...

BTW, I've just finished the David Frum book and recommend it to all. It offers some of the only glimpses we have of how the Bush White House actually works, and so for real junkies the stuff, say, on Rove and Hughes, and on Bush himself, will be worth the price of admission.

The portrait it paints strikes me as having the ring of truth; as to whether it's flattering or not, that will depend entirely on the reader's pre-existing views. Frum himself is clearly at a pretty extreme place on the spectrum, and his only criticisms of Bush are that he isn't conservative (or neoconservative) enough. Bush fans will often nod their heads approvingly at many points in the book; Bush non-fans will be slack-jawed in horror at what they are told. Although the book is not a particularly deep or substantive read, that is, both camps should find it interesting.

tb@yup.com