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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (68538)	1/24/2003 5:38:37 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I think "cheese eating surrender monkeys" was originally said by Homer Simpson.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (68538)	1/24/2003 6:12:09 PM
From: paul_philp	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I liked the last paragraph. The idea that France is not on board is a less than compelling argument against an attack. France is doing what it thinks is best for France — not the world, not America, not humanity, but France. If that involves screwing America, they'll do it. If that involves leaping to America's defense at the last minute like the cartoon dog who's got the big dog at his side, they'll do that too. If you are a dedicated opponent of an American war, fine. It's perfectly defensible to be rooting for France's success at the U.N. But if France's righteous bloviating against war makes them your Dashboard Saint of International Integrity, it's either because you are sand-poundingly ignorant of how the world works or it's because you think France's self-interest is more important than America's. If the former applies to you, read a book. If it's the latter, maybe you should move there along with Alec Baldwin, Robert Altman, and the rest of the crowd who promised to leave a long time ago. But whatever you do, don't call France's position principled, because that just insults us both.