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To: russet who wrote (11998)	1/25/2003 6:13:50 AM
From: Mark Bartlett	Respond to of 14101

russett, although not quite saying WF10 was a cure for Aids Thanks for admitting I was right and you were wrong. Do you make mistakes like this often? I stand by the basic content of my other posts. Yes, the timelines are off, but they are off for lots of other drugs too -- if one takes the time to read how the FDA has slowed down drug approvals, one would know that. I should point out that several people I know who have used DMSO for equine applications have been unable to source it easily for about a year, even from vets,....why? I guess DMX is taking up all the production for drug launches -- no time to make vet grade stuff anymore .... have to produce medical grade now .. LOL MB

To: russet who wrote (11998)	1/25/2003 8:31:48 AM
From: Mark Bartlett	Respond to of 14101

russett, and really wonder how anyway could know anything about the results of the latest phase 3 trials given that aids is a disease that ebbs and flows, over many years, and thus needs years to discover if a drug really has an effect or not. Meant to comment on this. Think about this statement, Russett. It is one of the most absurd thing that I have seen written on any thread. If this were the case, then it suggests that all the drugs that have been approved for AIDS thus far have not been adequately tested and perhaps never will be. I'd certainly agree that some weren't adequately tested, that has been well documented, and I would further suggest there are many that are more toxic than beneficial -- there are a few reputable papers to support this too. But what you seem to be suggesting is that since AIDS is supposedly an infection with a very long incubation period and it ebbs and flows over many years (thereby making it difficult to determine whether a medication is actually effecting the change) then we will never be able to adequately test a drug to see if it really works. That being the case, we might as well just throw in the towel now and give up -- not only with AIDS, but for many other degenerative diseases that "ebb and flow" over many years. MB