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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: stockman_scott who wrote (3866)	1/26/2003 3:19:06 AM
From: PartyTime	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 25898

January 23, 2003 White House Press Briefing by by Ari Fleicher: >>> Q Which nations do you think you can count on in the event there is a war? MR. FLEISCHER: Well, again, I'm somewhat reluctant to name nations until those nations themselves name -- put their own name forward. Australia, of course, today, has taken the action that it's taken. And the President has thanked the people of Australia for their strong action. But I think that it's fair to say that when you want to sum up where Europe is on this question, there are divisions in Europe. Europe doesn't have one opinion or one thought. Europe is divided with most of the governments of Europe in support of America. There are few who are not; there are a few who are not yet decided about what position they will take.<<< Does anyone else find it interesting that in response to such a key and crucial question, the first name that comes out is one of the weakest links of support? Indeed, Australia sees this war differently than does America. >>>PM says our forces not in US war plan January 26 2003 By Brendan Nicholson Political Correspondent Prime Minister John Howard has strongly rejected claims that the United States has already planned how it will commit Australian forces in a war on Iraq. Mr Howard was responding to reports from the US that Australian units on their way to the Gulf had already been factored into the Bush government's war plan. theage.com.au So after Australia as number one mention that America can "count on," he then goes into the European nations, and says the following: >>> But I think that it's fair to say that when you want to sum up where Europe is on this question, there are divisions in Europe. Europe doesn't have one opinion or one thought. Europe is divided with most of the governments of Europe in support of America.<<< "Most of the governments of Europe?" OK, let's examine Europe and how consistent the European position is in relation to what Fleisher attenuated. Specifically, consider the comments of Greek Foreign Minister George Papandreou, whose country holds the presidency of the 15-nation bloc of European Union countries. >>>Papandreou said there was a "quite wide" consensus among the 15 EU countries "that if there is to be military action, it would require a second resolution." However, he conceded the consensus was "not full." newsday.com Anyway, he then says Britain and Italy would support the US effort, however he qualifies that both nations want UN support. After that he mentions Eastern European countries but none by name. OK folks, how reassuring is any of the above statements from the White House? Is this sufficient, or even quality, support such America would, could or should commit its sons and daughters to a likely very vicious and likely very bloody war, one that will mostly mark the death of innocents? I predict Bush's poll numbers are going to worsen further. And rightly so!