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To: fatty who wrote (8505)	1/26/2003 10:13:07 AM
From: RealMuLan	Respond to of 306849

>.Masters degree is the best stepping stone for H1-B visa. The colleges know it and that's why they usually don't give out scholarships & grants. Most prestigeous engineering colleges don't even accept masters students. It's also a rather useless degree, typically reserved for undergrads who can't get a job or employed professionals who can't advance on job performance or other career changers. << Not necessary so. Majority of graduate students from China (plenty of them were/are in prestige engineering colleges, like Cal Tech, MIT....) were/are on the scholarship. One friend of mine graduated from Dartmouth College (MS in EE) on full scholarship, although the engineering program there is not the best, the reputation of Ivy League made it easy for him to get a decent job. And currently I have several contacts, 2 in MIT, one in Harvard Medical school, 1 just got a Master and Ph.D degree in Bioscience from Dartmouth, and transferring to Harvard Medical school for a PostDoc. position (yes, another H1-B). And they were/are all on full scholarship and stipend (of course have to work part-time). And also Master degree is NOT a useless degree, at least a lot of companies do not think so. A lot of big companies offer sig. higher pay for the people who has master degree than for the people who do not have. And H1-B visa is a sure way for the US to get some most outstanding young talent from developing countries and all over the world, and the US gov. gains a lot without has to invested much. And that is Exactly why the US gov. keeps this type of visa. And BTW, H1-B has had limits of 60,000 ONLY since 1996, and before 1996, there was NO limits on the number of H1-B hires. And although I do not have stats for the Chinese students who were/are on the scholarship here in the US since late 1980's, but I am sure there are thousands of them, and a lot of them were/are in the prestige universities.