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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: TigerPaw who wrote (347987)	1/26/2003 10:54:50 AM
From: CYBERKEN	Respond to of 769670

As wars drag with no end in sight, the "reasons" they were initiated change. The public always has to be given some justification for the sacrifice and the endless casualty lists. Hitler provided the Holocaust, and the Allies provided Nuremberg. A worthy reason for the Crusade in Europe-that is indisputable. It was, however, a relatively obscure issue to the general public until 1945. And, whereas it was actually assumed to be occurring, confusion was reinforced by the fact that our "ally", Josif Stalin, was the undisputed champ at butchery, with Hitler just a distant runner-up. The American Civil War STARTED over secession, and ENDED over SLAVERY. WWII in Europe STARTED over Danzig, and ENDED over the Holocaust. You see the same pattern in EVERY long war...

To: TigerPaw who wrote (347987)	1/26/2003 12:27:43 PM
From: KonKilo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

...it was slavery that was at the core of the war. No doubt at all it was THE hot button issue. But the core of the conflict was that the Confederate states felt they had a constitutional right to secede and Lincoln was determined that they must not. Without that disagreement, there would have been no hot lead flying.

To: TigerPaw who wrote (347987)	1/26/2003 3:27:45 PM
From: Johannes Pilch	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Indeed. As reputable historians have written repeatedly, the war did not start over secession. No one argued, fought and died over an argument concerning secession. The spark started in the South over the right to expand slavery and the South tried to use secession to protect that right, (called "states rights"). That is how the history happened and we have the historical docs to prove it. The war, in essence, started over slavery (and other issues) because it was over slavery that the South tried to break the union contract we call the Constitution.