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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (5891)1/27/2003 2:24:12 PM
From: Mephisto  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 15516
 
Uzbekistan. Last summer I read that Uzbekistan's dictator had visited the White House.
There was a small item about the visit in the Washington Post. The cruelty of the
"stans" dictators is well known so we don't have to elaborate on their barbaric actions here.
Also, I picked up another item last summer that said Rummy visited one of the
"stans." As you say, the dictators are corrupt but if Bush gives them money it is possible
that a few of the dictators in the area may say they support Bush's war on Iraq.

The map passed by on tv so quickly I was unable to see if fully. I guess the point was that very
few countries supported Bush.

At this time only one thing seems certain, Bush intends to pursue his war on Iraq. I saw the
prominent Republican strategist Norquist (unsure of spelling) on Bill Moyer's, NOW program
a few weeks ago. He seemed confident that the war would start in February, I believe.
To be sure, you might Moyer's interview with him on the web. I don't have time to look it up.

I am so fed up with all the emphasis on war. At least Washington State Senator, Patty Murray
fights for Amtrack and the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation is giving $200 million to research
the causes of death in developing countries and to entice scientists to try and solve them.

When you wrote about dishonest propaganda, the US press should be criticized because it
has never told the American public at great length that the US attack on Iraq in 1991 created serious health
problems for the Iraqi people and especially their children.
We all know Saddam poisoned the
Kurds. We know he is a bad man, but the US destruction of the Iraqi infrastructure is also
terrible.

Some scientists believe the depleted uranium left in the sand by weapons that the US
used has been responsible for birth defects and other health problems because they
produce toxic dust and low levels of radiation which infiltrate the food chain.
(The Navy has used depleted uranium in the
waters off our coasts. I'll post a story about it.)


Also, the sanctions on Iraq contributed to the
deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children, according to a report by UNICEF in 1999.
According to the information that was passed out to me at a public meeting,
the UNICEF report was never mentioned
on the three main TV nightly news shows.

The New England Journal of Medicine has published studies on the impact of the Gulf war
and the trade sanctions on the Iraqi people. One study concluded that there was "strong evidence
that the Gulf War and trade sanctions caused a threefold increase in mortality among
Iraqi children under five years of age. We estimate that an excess of more
than 46,900 children died between January and August 1991."
(N ENGL J MED 1992;327:931-6). This article was published in 1992!

When the US destroyed power plants in the Gulf War, they destroyed the water purification system
to a halt. There have been epidemics of cholera, typhoid fever, and gastroenteritis, particularly among children.
Information about the the epidemics was published in a special article in The New England
Journal of Medicine,
Volume 336(17) April 24, 1997, pp. 1248-1250
by Leon Eisenberg, M.D. Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA 02115.
The title of the article is, "The Sleep of Reason Produces Monsters--Human Costs."

>>>>>>>>>>>

Many articles about the devastation of the US attack on Iraq have been published by
credible organizations but the US press doesn't want to concentrate on these reports. When
we attended a public meeting in December we received several pages that mentioned the
above studies and other information.

The US blames SADDAM for everything that is wrong in Iraq, but the US refuses to accept
responsibility for the way we harmed the Iraqi people in the 1991 Gulf War. JMOP



To: Raymond Duray who wrote (5891)1/27/2003 2:37:16 PM
From: Mephisto  Respond to of 15516
 
Toxic ammo is tested in fish areas
U.S. Navy uses depleted uranium in coast waters; activists may go to court


"Although depleted uranium emits radiation, a second,
potentially more serious hazard is created when a DU
round hits a hard target. As much as 70 percent of the
projectile can burn on impact, creating a firestorm of
ceramic DU oxide particles. The residue of this firestorm is
an extremely fine ceramic uranium dust that can be spread
by the wind, inhaled and absorbed into the human body
and absorbed by plants and animals, becoming part of the
food chain."


January 9, 2003



By LARRY JOHNSON
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER FOREIGN DESK EDITOR


The Navy routinely tests a weapon by firing radioactive,
toxic ammunition in prime fishing areas off the coast of
Washington, raising concerns from scientists, fishermen
and activists.

The Navy insists the use of depleted uranium off the coast
poses no threat to the environment. Depleted uranium,
known as DU, is a highly dense metal that is the byproduct
of the process during which fissionable uranium used to
manufacture nuclear bombs and reactor fuel is separated
from natural uranium. DU remains radioactive for about 4.5
billion years.


Cmdr. Karen Sellers, a Navy
spokeswoman in Seattle, also
said there are no hazards to
the servicemen and women
on board the ships, adding
that "all crew members are
medically monitored" to
ensure their safety.

But a coalition of Northwest
environmental and anti-war
activists say they are
considering seeking an
injunction to halt the tests.

"The Navy is willing to put us
all at risk, including its own
sailors, to improve its war-fighting capabilities," said Glen
Milner, of Ground Zero Center for Nonviolent Action, one of
the groups weighing a suit to stop the Navy tests.
Milner
received information on the Navy's tests of depleted
uranium ammunition off the coast in a memo released in
response to a Freedom of Information Act request.

No major studies apparently have been done on the effects
of such weapons in the ocean. Where depleted uranium
munitions have been used in combat on land, such as in
Iraq during the Gulf War, or in tests on land, such as
Vieques island in Puerto Rico, they not only give off
relatively small amounts of radiation, but produce toxic
dust that can enter the food chain.


Seattle environmental attorney David Mann asked, "How
can the Navy fire depleted uranium rounds and spread
radioactive material into prime fishing areas off our coast?"

Sellers, however, said that only 400 to 600 rounds would
be fired during a typical test at sea. And even though these
tests have been going on since 1977, she said Navy
environmental experts say that the DU dissolves very slowly
in the ocean.

"It would be too diluted to distinguish from natural
background uranium in the sea water," she said.

The weapon in question is the Phalanx, also known as a
Close In Weapons System. Such a system is on virtually all
U.S. Navy combat ships. It includes radar and rapid-fire
20mm guns. The guns are capable of firing up to 3,000 or
4,500 rounds per minute of depleted uranium, a superhard
material prized for its armor-piercing ability.


The Defense Department says the military uses the
munitions "because of DU's superior lethality against armor
and other hard targets."

Although depleted uranium emits radiation, a second,
potentially more serious hazard is created when a DU
round hits a hard target. As much as 70 percent of the
projectile can burn on impact, creating a firestorm of
ceramic DU oxide particles. The residue of this firestorm is
an extremely fine ceramic uranium dust that can be spread
by the wind, inhaled and absorbed into the human body
and absorbed by plants and animals, becoming part of the
food chain.

Once in the soil, DU can pollute the environment and
create up to a hundredfold increase in uranium levels in
ground water, according to the U.N. Environmental
Program


The Defense Department said DU munitions are "war
reserve munitions; that is, used for combat and not fired for
training purposes," with the exception that DU munitions
may be fired at sea for weapon calibration purposes."

Another Navy spokeswoman described those firings at sea
as "routine" and says they occur regularly off both the East
and West coasts.

"If the firing is with DU, it's probably with what we call the
Close in Weapons System, and it is routine," said Lt.
Brauna Carl, a Navy spokeswoman in Washington, D.C.,
and a former gunnery officer who has worked with DU
weapons.

When asked if the tests of DU rounds posed any health
hazards, she replied, "God, I hope not. All I know is I
haven't started glowing."

But Milner says, "It just makes sense that if DU can
contaminate land and get into the food chain, then it would
do the same thing in the sea."


Robert Alverson, president of the Fishing Vessel Owners
Association in Seattle, said he was "very troubled" to hear
that the Navy was using depleted uranium off the coast of
Washington. "I don't like what I'm hearing," he said.


The Navy memo obtained by Milner described a June 2001
operation by the USS Fife, an Everett-based destroyer. The
memo said the Fife would conduct gunnery operations with
depleted rounds in what was described as areas W237C
and W237F.

These areas are designated Navy Warning Areas and are
about 25-100 miles off the coast between Ocean Shores
and Ozette, south of Neah Bay, according to Milner.

"These are certainly prime fishing areas" for some salmon,
flounder and other bottomfish, Alverson said. "It is folly to
be testing anything in this area that might contaminate the
natural food supply."


"How would the Navy feel about eating fish caught there?"
he asked. Alverson said even the perception that fish might
be contaminated could scare consumers and have dire
consequences.

"If any species ever turns up with radiation, it would be
devastating to the fishing industry," he said.

Leonard Dietz, a research associate with the private,
non-profit Uranium Medical Research Centre in Canada
and the United States, said that the degree of
environmental contamination the DU rounds will cause in
sea water depends on what kinds of targets were hit and
how much DU was fired.

"Corrosion of the DU by sea water would occur over a long
time," said Dietz, who with Asaf Durakovic, director of the
center, and research associate Patricia Horan, published a
landmark study on inhaled DU that showed Gulf War
veterans still had DU in their urine nine years after the
war.

"The end result is that the ocean becomes a dumping
ground for the spent DU penetrators and they add to the
(natural) uranium content of sea water," he said.

The Ground Zero Center for Nonviolent Action is one of five
peace and environmental organizations already involved in
a federal lawsuit against the Navy for violations of the
Endangered Species Act over the Trident D-5 nuclear
missile upgrade at the Bangor submarine base.

DEPLETED URANIUM HAZARDS

The Pentagon has sent mixed signals about the effects of
depleted uranium, saying there have been no known
health problems associated with the munition. At the same
time, the military acknowledges the hazards in an Army
training manual, which requires that anyone who comes
within 25 meters of any DU-contaminated equipment or
terrain wear respiratory and skin protection, and says that
"contamination will make food and water unsafe for
consumption."

Some researchers and several U.S. veterans organizations
say they suspect depleted uranium of playing a role in Gulf
War Syndrome,
the still-unexplained malady that has
plagued hundreds of thousands of Gulf War veterans.

On the Net:

Ground Zero Center for Nonviolent Action: www.gzcenter.org
U.S. Navy: www.navy.mil
Iraqi birth defects, Gulf War Syndrome linked to depleted uranium

P-I foreign desk editor Larry Johnson can be reached at 206-448-8035 or
larryjohnson@seattlepi.com