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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (348073)	1/26/2003 10:03:37 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Lincoln himself said the war was about slavery. And he also said it wasn't: Message 18492051 And he did it more than once. What was his true mind? Who knows? I am not a mind reader, nor is anyone else. He did run on the ticket of the anti-slavery party. That's what the Republican Party was about. That's why it was formed. He was certainly interested in saving the Union. Yes. And had abolition gotten in the way of that goal, he may very well have reformed the Union with slavery still legal under federal law. But who knows? As for the Northern riots, you must remember that anti-slavery Republican Party was brand new. There were multiple causes behind those riots: the draft, fear of economic competition from freed slaves, .... That meant that the North was heavily populated by Democrats, very many of whom sympathized with the South. And that was a problem for the North all through the war: the enemy looks just like you. Sort of Vietnam on American soil. And it was something of az problem for the South because Northern spies could blend right in. the Constitution, clearly states no state can form alliance with another. Message 18492556 But, at the time the Confederacy was formed, the states that formed it were no longer members of the Federal Union, so how could they be bound by its Constitution? AND Amendment 10 of the Bill of Rights states, "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people." Because there is nothing written in the Constitution denying the states the right to secede, legally, the states could secede. The Constitution also granted no power to the federal government to make a state remain in the Union against its wishes. And let me point out it was the NORTHERN states who first brought the subject of secession in American history: hillsdale.edu And since the Constitution was then and is now a legal contract, requiring ratification of parties to be formed, it requires proper ratification to be broken. The Southern states did in fact notify the federal Secretary of State of their secession.