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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: PartyTime who wrote (4069)1/27/2003 5:51:12 PM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 25898
 
HILL & KNOWLTON: PROPAGANDA SPECIALISTS

Re: Was this Kuwaiti or American propaganda? And does anybody konw about Hill and Knowlton?

W/R/T the babies tossed out of incubators lie, there is a terrific section on this deception in John R. MacArthur's excellent book, "The Second Front: Censorship and Propaganda in the Gulf War"

amazon.com

Additional resources on Hill & Knowlton:

fair.org

prwatch.org
csmonitor.com

Hill & Knowlton was a prime contractor to the Department of Death's Office of Strategic Influence and never lost its contract when Herr Von Rummy lied about canceling OSI. They now continue to work for Death and also for the White Louse's Office of Global (dis)Information.

-Ray



To: PartyTime who wrote (4069)1/27/2003 8:16:21 PM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 25898
 
Your idea of "objective reasoning" seems to be merely bending over backwards to make excuses for Saddam's crimes, employing historical sources biased by a left-wing and anti-American political idealogy.

April Glaspie's talk with Saddam included the message that "disputes should be settled by peaceful means, not through intimidation", words that left-wing sources seem to leave out. Saddam, in turn, told Glaspie that Iraq would not use force against Iraq.  
 
Between Iraq's invasion of Kuwait on August 2 1990 and the UN deadline for Iraqi withdrawal of January 15, Saddam was given many chances to negotiate a peaceful retreat. For example: 13-15 January * Hussein regime rebuffs last-minute negotiations by the French government and UN Secretary-General de Cuellar.
He didn't want to negotiate - he wanted to keep Kuwait. The 32 country coalition commenced military actions on January 17. Note: Immediately after his invasion, BTW Saddam even promised to withdraw by August 5 1990, a promise he didn't keep.

BTW during the war, Iraq did in fact invade Saudi Arabia (on January 29) but was beaten back. This, the battle of Khafji, Saudi Arabia, was the first ground battle of the war. The coalition didn't initiate ground operations against Iraqi forces until February 24.

The military coalition consisted of Afghanistan, Argentina, Australia, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Belgium, Canada, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Egypt, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Honduras, Italy, Kuwait, Morocco, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Niger, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, South Korea, Spain, Syria, Turkey, the United Arab Emirates, the United Kingdom, and the United States.

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