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To: RealMuLan who wrote (69225)	1/27/2003 7:02:02 PM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Yiwu, Tibet belongs to china like texas belongs to the US--OOPS! No we can disagree on things like this. Your view interests me because it parallels the Greater China idea being at the borders or to the islands like indonesia/malaysia to a lesser extent. As China becomes a great power in the world here responsibilities and interests will not necessarily be limited by geography. Very interesting. And by the way, China only entered Korea when the US pushed toward the Yalu and the US pushed to the Yalu for the good purpose of ending the stalinist north korean regime. UNINTENDED consequences are something that war brings. I hope to continue this chat tomorrow. MIke PS still interested in that pm re: age/location in china. If you are younger than i am which i would suspect, i would be interested in the perspectives of different generations in china. I have chatted with several russians my own age and we trade stories about how it felt to be the targets of each others icbms in the 1950s. PPS Also Happy New year. I will be visiting my inlaws saturday nite to celebrate with them. One of my daughter inlaws is Chinese and though there were difficulties in the beginning, we have all become very close.

To: RealMuLan who wrote (69225)	1/27/2003 8:39:38 PM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

res- First things first, Tibet BELONGS to CHINA, period. Too bad if you disagree. Since many Chinese also believe Taiwan belongs to China, do you support the same sort of invasion, similar to what happened in Tibet?

To: RealMuLan who wrote (69225)	1/27/2003 8:53:20 PM
From: greenspirit	Respond to of 281500

The present horrible situation in Korea, where the nation is divided between free democratic South Korea, and fascist dictatorial North Korea was mainly caused by China's "intervention" in the war. Today, North Korea would look more like South Korea if China had remained neutral and kept out of the conflict. Millions have died from starvation in North Korea as a result of China's involvement there. Why are the Chinese leaders afraid of building a Republic answerable to the people? Why are they afraid of allowing their citizens a voice in government? Why are they afraid of allowing them free speech, a free press, unfettered access to the internet, and other rights given to civilized nations? Lastly, why are they clinging to a "one child" policy when the social results are proving so disastrous. With millions of men in their early twenties unable to find wives, and female slave trade from North Korea exploding?

To: RealMuLan who wrote (69225)	1/27/2003 10:18:38 PM
From: frankw1900	Respond to of 281500

"Tibet BELONGS to CHINA, period. Sure, they conquered it when I was a kid and have been committing low level genocide ever since. A stupid, evil thing to do at the time and nothing has changed. It's been a costly venture. China has never made dime one from it.