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To: RealMuLan who wrote (69375)1/28/2003 1:04:13 AM
From: paul_philp  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 

I think I am done to discuss Taiwan and Tibet here. No point as I see it.


The Ugly Americans are going to be challenged, I can see it very clearly.

Paul



To: RealMuLan who wrote (69375)1/28/2003 1:09:59 AM
From: greenspirit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Yiwu, if money bought gratitude, the "Old European" countries like France and Germany would be showering us with kindness and sympathy. I can appreciate your closer links to Taiwan and China, however, what I've discovered over the years is freedom speaks a language understandable to all.

Taiwan and China don't have to love America, or individual Americans to love free speech, democracy, habeas corpus, spiritual tolerance or intellectual openness.

I have a story.. recently a good friend of mine returned from China. She was teaching a masters course in Human Resource Management. During the course, she asked an innocent question to the class, "what is your unemployment rate"? (in the city she was teaching). The class become totally silent. During the next break, her government liaison official explained that in China we don't ask questions like that. In other words, some of the best and brightest of China's young people are afraid of talking openly about many things which go against government policy. It is assumed that one of the students works for the government, and watches other students, then reports those who don't toe-the-party-line.

A government which is fearful of its citizens asking a simple question like "what is our unemployment rate"? Is not an enlightened place of intellectual enquiry.

Having the unique experiences you've had, should allow you to realize the deep changes China needs to make in order to become all she can be.



To: RealMuLan who wrote (69375)1/28/2003 6:28:32 AM
From: William B. Kohn  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Yiwu,

Your story about Taiwan is really a shame. I believe that Taiwan, like South Korea is a place where the US Government thought it was doing it's best. If a nation of people can be turned off by a seeing solgiers doing what solgiers have done since time began than it is very sad.

Still, if the US is so bad, I have to wonder why so many Chinese come to the US. If China is so good, why don't I see a massive departure of Americans wanting to migrate to China?

I suspect the cup is rather 1/2 full.

bill