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To: carranza2 who wrote (69827)	1/29/2003 11:46:55 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

C2, HOw true that is. I didnt get any warning at all when the World Trade Center started to fall apart in front of me. Guys like Steve are in denial. This argument is futile. The good news is that our view is the majority view in the US. Wait for the new polls, particulary after powell. Those will be the only numbers that count. These guys have lost the argument here and will really be pissed off when the europeans finally come onboard. Then they will yell american coercion but it is more than that. The German and French people among others when presented with the choice of America vs iraq will make the right choice imo. Can anyone really imagine what the world would be like without the US lead. They will get that point. I make it without delight. I wish there were other sources of leadership in the world but for a myriad of reasons it is the US. Mike

To: carranza2 who wrote (69827)	2/13/2003 10:19:51 PM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

...the new threats are not in the nature of tanks and armies being mobilized--things which can be seen at a distance and for which we can prepare. The new threats are more insidious and slippery. The damage they can do can be both substantial and immediate. Don't expect revenge-driven whack-jobs like Saddam or AQ to warn. Yes, the new threats are not at all like the old threats posed by conventional military force in the hands of potentially hostile nations. That’s why the new threats require new tactics for an effective response. We cannot stop terrorists by invading nations. By the time we get there, the terrorists will be long gone, and settled somewhere else. We end up spending our force and our resources on those who do not threaten us, and in the process strengthening the position of those who do. The sad reality is that the terrorists do not really need state support, and the only effective way to eliminate them is to hunt them down one at a time, quietly and secretly, and kill them. We are not fighting a nation or a collection of nations; we are fighting a group of individuals, spread out in many places. The tactics and equipment that are used in wars against nations will not serve us.