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To: Fred Levine who wrote (67456)1/30/2003 4:31:21 AM
From: zonder  Respond to of 70976
 
Fred - Would you not care to comment on the reasoning I wrote down at some length for why I think this war is about the oil?

And my question at the end - what you meant about the UN?

Even tho the excuse was that Iran was a worse evil

I wish you would not use the word "evil" when describing countries. It is a religious designation. The inherent superficiality in "They are evil, we are good" rhetoric makes me wince every time.

Let us agree on one thing - "evil" and "good" are concepts in children's books that most people revisit only in religious texts after puberty. It is a shame that the US president is so religious and so is his chief speech writer.

Here's how the phrase "axis of evil" came to life:

heraldnet.com

Bush, in his State of the Union did allocate money to fight AIDS in Africa.

Great. I never said US didn't do anything to help other countries. It does, and arguably more so than any other country.

I agree with almost everything you wrote

So you agree that the coming war is for the oil and possibly also for geopolitical advantages?

... but that is not incompatible with eliminating Saddam.

No it is not incompatible. However, once you see the motivation (oil) and the consequences (return to imperialism, reinsertion of preemptive attacks in world politics, acceptance of one country being above international treaties, etc), you might see why so many people are against it. Or did you think their resistance to Bush was because they loved Saddam?

I do differ with you about Saddam's compliance with the inspections. So do the inspectors.

What more would you like Iraqis to do? Force scientists to go to the US and talk to Americans? (Has it occurred to you that maybe the scientists really don't want to talk alone to Americans for fear that their words will be twisted and used against their country?) Fabricate WMDs so they can take them apart in front of the inspectors to show them they are disarming?

What if there really are no WMDs? Have you thought about that?

People die in war, Fred. Think about whether or not some prospective threat that possibly does not even exist is worth thousands of deaths in Iraq.