To: John Koligman who wrote (172316 ) 1/29/2003 2:08:41 PM From: Mike McFarland Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 176387 With free shipping, I should think Dell is not making too much on these: I bought a Dell Diminsion 2350 for a little less than $500 from the Dell Outlet store. ........................................... That is actually twice what a person needs to pay to get into a very low-end machine: You can get a bare-bones system with case, mainboard, cpu, and even 128megs of memory thrown in, for as low as $150. So if you're willing to put your old HDD in there etc... I didn't want to fart around building my own machine or upgrading my current PII, and I just sort of randomly set my price point at $500 this time. So...this machine came with Microsoft Office Small Business and Windows XP home, (most of the machines from the outlet store come with a Wordperfect suite, but somebody ordered the MS software then returned this unit). Nothing fancy here--just onboard sound and video (which shares main memory--I don't expect to do any gaming here, I don't use the XBOX that I have as it is...) It has a Celeron CPU, which I assume is a stripped down Pentium, but it runs at 2GHz, so that has to be much faster than my old 233mhz. The 7200rpm 30Gig drive is five times bigger than my current HDD, and I assume much faster/greater throughput. In that past 15 years or so I've been through a 386, a 486, and a PII-233. Overall, the clones have been fairly reliable, though seems like each time I've slapped in a card, I've had problems. Plug and play, ha, so they say. I've have had stinky power supplies, one failed entirely. And my cooling fans have all been rather noisy. Hoping the Dell will run quiet and cool and run for five years. Dell Service--I was disappointed. After I snagged my machine, the email confirmation showed a PC with a smaller HDD and half the memory of the one I thought I ordered. Second check, I apparently did print off the wrong unit--user error. Unfortunatly, the machine had already shipped and could not be changed, whatever. Memory is cheap, I can slap in more myself after the warranty expires in a year. And maybe at that time I'll add a cheap dedicated video and sound card just for fun.