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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: PROLIFE who wrote (4380)	1/29/2003 7:26:30 PM
From: Machaon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 25898

<< you just think it was about Paula Jones and Monica Lewinsky? Where have YOU been? >> But was it worth the destruction to America on Sept 11th? Perhaps, if this country wasn't so focused on the famous Clinton cigar, we would have noticed the terrorist plots against us. There were plenty of clues. This is similar to the issue of women's reproductive rights. Do you destroy a woman's ability to chart her own course in life, because of unreasonable dogma regarding birth control and abortion?

To: PROLIFE who wrote (4380)	1/30/2003 1:21:42 PM
From: Mighty_Mezz	Read Replies (10) \| Respond to of 25898

Speaking of corrupt administrations... === Iran-Contra Prosecutions In the course of Independent Counsel's investigation, 14 persons were charged with criminal violations. There were two broad classes of crimes charged: Operational crimes, which largely concerned the illegal use of funds generated in the course of the operations, and Cover-up crimes, which largely concerned false statements and obstructions after the revelation of the operations. Independent Counsel did not charge violations of the Arms Export Control Act or Boland Amendment. Although apparent violations of these statutes provided the impetus for the cover-up, they are not criminal statutes and do not contain any enforcement provisions. All of the individuals charged were convicted, except for one CIA official whose case was dismissed on national security grounds and two officials who received unprecedented pre-trial pardons by President Bush following his electoral defeat in 1992. Two of the convictions were reversed on appeal on constitutional grounds that in no way cast doubt on the factual guilt of the men convicted. The individuals charged and the disposition of their cases are: (1) Robert C. McFarlane: pleaded guilty to four counts of withholding information from Congress; pardoned before trial by President Bush; (2) Oliver L. North: convicted of altering and destroying documents, accepting an illegal gratuity, and aiding and abetting in the obstruction of Congress; conviction reversed on appeal; (3) John M. Poindexter: convicted of conspiracy, false statements, destruction and removal of records, and obstruction of Congress; conviction reversed on appeal; (4) Richard V. Secord: pleaded guilty to making false statements to Congress; (5) Albert Hakim: pleaded guilty to supplementing the salary of North; (6) Thomas G. Clines: convicted of four counts of tax-related offenses for failing to report income from the operations; (7) Carl R. Channell: pleaded guilty to conspiracy to defraud the United States; (8) Richard R. Miller: pleaded guilty to conspiracy to defraud the United States; (9) Clair E. George: convicted of false statements and perjury before Congress; pardoned before trial by President Bush; (10) Duane R. Clarridge: indicted on seven counts of perjury and false statements; pardoned before trial by President Bush; That means he knew something that would've put Bush in prison. (11) Alan D. Fiers, Jr.: pleaded guilty to withholding information from Congress; pardoned before trial by President Bush; (12) Joseph F. Fernandez: indicted on four counts of obstruction and false statements; case dismissed when Attorney General Richard L. Thornburgh refused to declassify information needed for his defense; Thornburgh was APPOINTED by Bush, so if he refused to allow a trial, Fernandez must;ve known something that would've put Bush in prison. (13) Elliott Abrams: pleaded guilty to withholding information from Congress; pardoned before trial by President Bush; (14) Caspar W. Weinberger: charged with four counts of false statements and perjury; pardoned before trial by President Bush. ...because he publically stated he WOULD NOT go to prison for Iran-Contra. At the time President Bush pardoned Weinberger and Clarridge, he also pardoned George, Fiers, Abrams, and McFarlane. ...proving that each of these men had information that would've put Bush in prison. setstats 1 geocities.com