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To: Alighieri who wrote (159251)	1/30/2003 1:07:44 AM
From: i-node	Respond to of 1583493

What do you call his remarks indicating that we will go to war regardless of what the UN says? He gave the UN a chance to step up. And they may yet. If they don't, we have no alternative but to move without them. I hope they don't choose that route, as that will no doubt the end of the UN. And his rhetoric of pre-emption? There is no preemption. There was a ceasefire. Saddam violated its terms. According to its terms, the war continues. It isn't complicated. and breaking arms agreement with Russia There was no breaking. We simply decided we didn't want to participate any longer. A brilliant and necessary stroke. and then being shocked when NK does the same with us? (Expletive Deleted). You're actually suggesting that what NK did was somehow similar to what WE did? Or withdrawing from Kyoto? A joke. I am beginning to believe Bush is showing greatness beyond that of even Reagan.

To: Alighieri who wrote (159251)	1/30/2003 6:59:19 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 1583493

What do you call his remarks indicating that we will go to war regardless of what the UN says? If the war is a good idea/justified/morally acceptable it is so whatever the UN says. If it is not then it is not whatever the UN says. And his rhetoric of pre-emption? So far I am ok with his ideas of pre-emption but I can see that the idea can be taken to far. and breaking arms agreement with Russia We didn't break an arms agreement with Russia. We exercised a provision in the treaty that allowed us to withdraw. In other words we did not violate any commitment in this case. Or withdrawing from Kyoto? We were never in Kyoto. It was never ratified, in fact it was shot down unanimously by Congress. For that matter few other countries have ratified it. I think the number is in the low single digits. Tim