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To: paul_philp who wrote (70171)	1/30/2003 11:02:18 AM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

If Powell goes to the UN with no new evidence and the UNSC votes against a war and Bush backs down - that will make America forget Watergate. The right will kill 'em and feed his body parts to the left. He would have to go to war hoping to find the evidence after the attack. That would cover his butt. You've hit upon one of my worries. It is precisely this scenario that is about the most troubling. Bush goes because he's stuck his neck too far out. The problem is that, should he go without UNSC approval, one of the extant explanations for such a move will be precisely the scenario you paint. Whether it explains the move or not. Very messy.

To: paul_philp who wrote (70171)	1/30/2003 11:50:17 AM
From: Win Smith	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

If Powell goes to the UN with no new evidence and the UNSC votes against a war and Bush backs down - that will make America forget Watergate. The right will kill 'em and feed his body parts to the left. He would have to go to war hoping to find the evidence after the attack. That would cover his butt. Jeez, Paul. The "W can't back down or he'll look like a wimp" line has been prominent for a long time, I think it's been an integral part of the Perle campaign for at least a year. Push 'em out on a limb, then conveniently claim he can't back off. A war to save face for W seems about as honest and rational as a war for #1 and #3 in #reply-18487140 . I think this is all a plot to make me appreciate the relative subtlety and and realism of Perle's vision, reason #2.