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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (4677)	1/31/2003 10:29:34 AM
From: Mao II	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

A reminder: The Tonkin Gulf Resolution, passed by Congress Aug. 7, 1964 (The U.S. House and Senate passed the following resolution by an overwhelming majority on August 7, 1964, five days after the USS Maddox had been fired upon by the North Vietnamese. Asserting that there had been two unprovoked attacks, U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson ordered attacks on North Vietnamese naval bases and submitted this resolution to Congress. The Gulf of Tonkin Resolution allowed the president to take "all necessary steps" to protect the forces of the United States and its allies. As a result, U.S. participation in Vietnam grew -- without a formal declaration of war.) Joint Resolution of Congress Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That the Congress approves and supports the determination of the President, as Commander in Chief, to take all necessary measures to repel any armed attack against the forces of the United States and to prevent further aggression. Section 2. The United States regards as vital to its national interest and to world peace the maintenance of international peace and security in southeast Asia. Consonant with the Constitution of the United States and the Charter of the United Nations and in accordance with its obligations under the Southeast Asia Collective Defense Treaty, the United States is, therefore, prepared, as the President determines, to take all necessary steps, including the use of armed force, to assist any member or protocol state of the Southeast Asia Collective Defense Treaty requesting assistance in defense of its freedom. Section 3. This resolution shall expire when the President shall determine that the peace and security of the area is reasonably assured by international conditions created by action of the United Nations or otherwise, except that it may be terminated earlier by concurrent resolution of the Congress.

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (4677)	1/31/2003 11:01:41 AM
From: Mao II	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 25898

Ray -- How many heroes from Iran-Contra are now involved in the Iraq gambit? It seems Armitage is now the pr bagman and arm-twister. Who else? M2

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (4677)	1/31/2003 2:14:18 PM
From: Thomas M.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

That story will get much wider circulation in a year or two, when it becomes more useful . . . Tom

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (4677)	2/1/2003 10:35:43 PM
From: PartyTime	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

Hi folks! Been out of the loop a couple of days and presently looking at 195 Inbox messages (please do not be upset if I'm unable to reply to any messages directed towards me). I'm now putting out a call for any referenced material to include in the thread header. What have I missed, plesae let me know--thanks! Although only online for a few moments, I did happen to catch the below work of Pelletiere. Makes ya think, don't it? Message 18517821