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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (17639)	1/31/2003 1:16:33 PM
From: jonggua	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 206087

Say Ray, I was wondering if you could finally clue me in as to what really happened in Area 51 in the early 50's, and did those surviving aliens really help Lee Harvey Oswald kill JFK? LOL, you're a conspiracy theorist.

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (17639)	1/31/2003 1:41:30 PM
From: LPS5	Respond to of 206087

It appears that there is a complete lack of understanding of how war is fought... And you're here to straighten things out? Good. How long did you serve in the military? (Alternately, how many books have you read on the topic, and do you feel that those have positioned you to weigh in on the topic authoritatively?) ...and what level of suffering is about to be rained down on millions of innocent people. And you, on the other hand, understand this suffering? You've lived in how many war-torn nations? Most of these C&C installations are inextricably mixed in with the civilian infrastructure. And do you think that such "inextricabl[e]" positioning of military targets among civilian locations is accidental, or intentional? For example, the AA guns atop and between apartment buildings in Baghdad, etc? More importantly, where weapons systems and C3I (that's command, control, communications, and intelligence) targets are positioned that could adversely affect our military efforts: would you support putting our troops at risk by not hitting them? The attacks on Iraq will appear fairly indiscriminate to those on ground in Iraq. Of course they will, as bombing is a fairly black and white endeavor ('us' and 'them') where mistakes are inevitable and technology is fallible. Where's the beef? Conversely, the attacks will appear to be surgical "Nintendo" type strikes to the American public who will once again be convinced that that images they are fed via TV are real. I believe you've confused the concept of "real" vs. complete. Nothing could be further from the truth, which the Dept. of Defense has just about completely hidden from the American public, substituting a sanitized PG-13 rated version what is going to be horrible slaughter. First of all, you're speculating here, but that's okay. I personally take pains so as not to represent opinions and projections as immutable facts, but you're welcome to skin a cat anyway you see fit. :-) With regard to what the American public sees, well, you're right; but I personally think it's as naive to expect to see battle footage that isn't sterling in performance as it is to expect a professional football team to stack their highlight reels with fumbles and incomplete passes. I assure you it would be the first time in history that any aggressor nation ever showed such compassion for a recalcitrant enemy population. Truly, you seem to be on some sort of fantasy island with this speculation. We're going to feed them as we attack them? You're right, this didn't happen in Afghanistan. Oh no. Nor in the Balkans. No way. Nor in the defense of food convoys in Somalia. Uh-huh. Yeah, right. And I'm the Queen of England. About an hour ago, coming back from lunch, I saw a pigeon trying to eat a candy bar! We mean to murder civilians by the tens of thousands if not in wholesale quantities with tactical nukes. LOL. As you see it, right? The U.S. army has a history of using small pox in war. When? Most intelligent observers realize that there is a high likelihood that if the U.S. meets an intransigent resistance in an urban setting like Baghdad that it will not hestitate [sic] to use all the tools in its arsenal to break the seige. [sic] A small pox epidemic, propagandistically sold to the American populace as an evil act by a madman like Saddam would fool a large percentage of the American population, and the actual perpetrators of this heinous act would be undiscoverable in the fog of war. Ah, so it's all a conspiracy. There's an angle I didn't see coming. Remember, the anthrax attacks of autumn, 2001 were a political act designed to intimidate and soften Congress's will to resist the march to empire. As you see it, you mean. Would these same people show any more concern about a foreign enemy than they do a political enemy? Heavens, no! LPS5

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (17639)	1/31/2003 6:12:16 PM
From: LPS5	Respond to of 206087

Alas, perhaps, Iraqi civilians should just - in line with your theory pertaining to our own tragedy, below - consider their impending fate another example of "blowback"? Message 17993370 Message 18018384 LPS5