To: PROLIFE who wrote (353085 ) 2/3/2003 8:57:11 PM From: Poet Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670 I've just done a little web search. It seems that Nathanson admits to a history of lies while with NARAL and there's no reason to believe his personality has changed.The infamous 5-10,000 deaths "quote". This lie above is an often told tale, which has gained legend status, and is somewhat like the famous story which appears on a number of Abortion Opposition sites and which states Abortion Supporters claimed 5,000 to 10,000 deaths per year when abortion was illegal. That quote is supposed to have originated in a Planned Parenthood presentation in court but there is no court record to prove it. I've asked often for a source of an actual publication, pre-Roe, that contains this ridiculou s claim of 5-10,000 deaths a year. No one seems to be able to find it. Again, all we have is Abortion Opponents lying about what people said. More and more is seems that the only thing Abortion opposition is based on is lies and deceit. Bernard Nathanson - a founder and director of NARAL who later decided it was more lucrative to tell anti-abortion people what they wanted to hear - claims that NARAL always gave the figures as 5-10,000 when asked about deaths. He claims it was used continually by abortion supporters before Roe v Wade as a justification for legalizing abortion. Is Nathanson telling the truth now - as an anti abortionist - when he was an admitted liar he claims as an abortion supporter. This is one case where we should be easily able to verify the truth of his words. If he is telling the truth, and NARAL and other bodies who were fighting to legalize abortion in the 1960s made this 5-10,000 claim then it should appear many times in the contemporary news and trial publications of that day. We should be able to find it quoted easily in many many press reports of the debate and court cases concerning legalizing abortion at that time. You won't find it however. Nathanson is lying. He was a liar as a NARAL representative and is a liar as an abortion opposition representative. Just as his propaganda movie is simply an elaborate lie so his words in this instance are a also a lie. He's another leopard that has not changed his spots. eileen.250x.com The fact is that you are on one side of this issue and I am on the other. We will not change the other's opinion.