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To: zonder who wrote (3308)	2/4/2003 6:22:43 PM
From: William B. Kohn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 15987

Zonder, That is a baldfaced lie. Jewish rabbi's do not demean anyone else during any service I've attended. The rabbi's tend to be among the more liberal elements of Jewish society. Even when I've attended Orthodox services I've heard little spoken about non-Jews. If anything, Jews are critical of themselves during these services, with the Orthodox rabbi's most critical of those in the Jewish community who are quick to hide their roots. I will admit that we try to remember the holocaust, and we still harp on the fact that those Egyptians chased us all over the desert four thousand years ago, but we don't say bad things about Christians, Hindu's or Muslims in our synagogues as a rule.

To: zonder who wrote (3308)	2/4/2003 9:47:58 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 15987

Having said that, have you ever heard a sermon in a synagogue? You might be surprised how the rabbi can speak about non-Jewish people... Yes Zonder, I would be surprised.. And one would hope that the Jewish congregation would be horribly offended... I know that were I to hear such a anti-Islamic sermon, where someone cheered the death of some Muslim astronauts, I would walk right out.. But Hamza is controversial because it has been his mosque where so much of the militancy has stemmed from.. And recently they discovered Chemical Warfare protective suits there. And while you claim to not be defending the guy, by making a rhetorical, unsubstantiated claim that such sermons must occur regularly in other religious sermons, you seem to be trying to lessen the outrage that we should be feeling... But listen.. I would expect YOU to be outraged by similar militant utterances WHERE EVER you hear them... in a synagogue, church, or a mosque. The guy is an anomaly to Islam, that there is no doubt... But it's incumbent upon Muslims to quit trying to excuse his behavior as being nothing different than occurs in other religious faiths. And THAT IS, what I sense you are, unwittingly, trying to achieve. Why is it so difficult for Arabs to publicly condemn such rhetoric?? Why is this guy still in charge of this mosque?? Great article I found on the Finsbury Park Mosque where Hamza "teaches": obv.org.uk Hawk