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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (3310)	2/4/2003 12:42:40 PM
From: zonder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 15987

Actually, it's more appropo to compare it to an unruly inter-racial neighborhood feud where the cops show an obvious bias against the "rich folk" because "they should know better" than to go fightin' 'wit 'dem po' unedjamacated folk.. Wha...? Be nice to me. I am not a native speaker of English :-) "appropo" = a propos (French), I guess. The rest, I didn't really get :-) Civilized behavior is NOT instinctive. Respect for human life is not instinctive either. Both are worth preserving, though.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (3310)	2/4/2003 3:01:12 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 15987

<In fact, I'm a bit amazed that Israeli society has remained as moderate as it has been for the past 10 years. I can almost guarantee you that Americans wouldn't have that same kind of patience.> Perhaps the Israelis could respond to suicide bomber attacks with explosions of comparable size [but maybe twice the size] in crowded Palestinian towns, shops and markets. As you say, Americans aren't so particular. They did a couple of VERY large explosions right there in the markets, with women, children, babies, men, young and old. It certainly put a stop to Japan's rampage through Asia. I can understand that with the Holocaust in living memory, they are very reluctant to adopt such barbaric eye for eye, red in tooth and claw methods, even in self-defence. When continuously pushed for another few decades, they might start to respond in kind [there have been the occasional equivalents by angry individual Jews, who are then gaoled]. Self-defence is the most basic action, coming before food, warmth, water, friends and family. Survival is number one. Even children are not always defended if death is certain for both. Survival is a powerful drive. DNA without powerful survival drive didn't escape the infinite array of challenges over the past billion years. It has been filtered out. Humans have the DNA to survive. Maybe suicide bombers are a self-limiting problem. I wonder how many they'll be able to supply. I suppose there's one [sucker] born every minute as they say. Ethics are a recent cultural construct to help us live together for mutual self-interest. Survival beats ethics when push comes to shove. Mqurice