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To: Win Smith who wrote (71354)2/5/2003 1:22:01 AM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
So, does that mean you're going with the inverted Hashemite restoration line, Nadine? Or perhaps the Abdullah to Iraq variant? You've also got to integrate the transfer line into that one at some point.

So, you admit that saying "Jordan is a Palestinian state" is merely descriptive? Is that why you have moved the point being sneered at? I have no opinion one way or the other about a Hashemite restoration in Iraq, though it's clear that certain Hashemites (like the former Crown Prince) are getting their hopes up.

I'm a little surprised to see you walk away from the "There are no Palestinians" line, though. Temporary oversight?

Oh, there are Palestinians, alright. There have been Palestinians (meaning Arabs attached to the nationality of "Palestine") for about forty years now. Before that, there were just "Arabs living in Israel" and "Arab refugees from Palestine". Check the contemporary sources - before 1948, the term "Palestinian" refered to the Zionists, since they were the ones who wanted to make a country of the place. Before and after '48, the Arabs in Palestine put their hopes in conquest by the neighboring Arab countries, none of whom had the least intention of creating a new state of Palestine if they had succeeded. (You didn't notice any Palestine being declared on the West Bank or Gaza, did you?) It wasn't until hopes of this conquest really began to fade after 1967 that Palestinian Arabs began to give ideological loyalty to a nation of Palestine.

So when Golda said "There are no Palestinians" in 1973, she was a little behind the times, that's all.