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Pastimes : Shuttle Columbia STS-107 -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Bill Jackson who wrote (335)	2/4/2003 11:05:01 PM
From: Oral Roberts	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 627

Bill, I am Oral, you are Bill. Anyhow since I am just a sheet metal guy and you are the chemist please tell me how we are going to rig this apparatus gig to make oxygen from water. We have 2x the amount of hydrogen don't we? What are we going to do with that? We can't use tap water as there are too many impurities in there that would queer the process Bill, now what? I suppose though that the shuttle has only distilled water on board so that shouldn't be an issue. But attn: Houston and Bill we have another problem in that distilled water doesn't conduct electricity if I remember my basic Science. Is that correct Bill? So if it doesn't conduct electricity how are we going to charge it and make it separate? I suppose we could add KOH as an electrolyte Bill so that the distilled water could conduct. Do you suppose they carry a few drums of that around for shits and giggles? Bill since they are now going to be using the little bit of water they have on board to do your duct tape survival deal, what are they to drink and just how much water do we need to make enough O2 for 7? As a sheetmetal worker I can come up with several more reasons why they aren't going to make O2 out of the supplies they had on board, but please feel free to put my undedicated ass in it's place Bill. And please explain to me this successive skip shit. We fire retro's to slow and enter earth's atmosphere at the precise level needed to enter. If that doesn't happen we bounce off the outer atmosphere and skip thereby not entering. So are you going to fire again to bet back to the outer atmosphere even though you are now out of fuel to do that? How are you going to do that Bill as I am under the understanding that you get one shot at re-entry and after that you are hosed.

To: Bill Jackson who wrote (335)	2/4/2003 11:11:04 PM
From: ownstock	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 627

NASA owns the best video of stuff falling off...the stuff at launch. And they even had contingency plans for just that sort of thing. They should have scrubbed the launch and returned to the Cape, or gone on to Africa. Neither of which would have resulted in structural failure, as evidenced by the fact they made it to orbit. I don't know about you, but as I watch the video, the amount of material that flies off the underside of the wing is obviously much more than hit it. Someone saw that stuff come off in real time, and should have called range safety to abort the flight. They already admit they made the judgement call, much much later after reviewing the video, that it was OK to have done nothing. That means they knew there was a big risk, and they called a meeting to make management feel better. This reminds me more and more of the Challenger, where management was going to launch unless it could be PROVEN the thing would blow up. So they launched. That correlates with all the propaganda about the NASA family junk...smoke screen for the mission and hardware comes first. They would have you believe the decision was weighted towards scrub unless it could be proven it would get to orbit and return safely. -Own