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To: zonder who wrote (3389)	2/5/2003 11:26:58 AM
From: Machaon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 15987

<< Powell's "evidence" is BS so far. >> Powell just started talking, and you have already reached your conclusion. I can see that you understand how to completely analyze evidence, study the implications, and come to an educated evaluation. <g> You mimic those stupid Arabs in Iraq, who keep denying the obvious, and try to deceive the world. It is stupid. Is is corrupt. Saddam and the Iraqi regime are as worthless as their lies. They lack courage, by their lies. But, you fall for all the scams of the Iraqi regime, as well as the scams of the Palestinian leaders, as well as the scams of the terrorists. Your ability to give an opinion about what an educated experienced person, like Powell says, seems quite limited. Why don't you stick to giving advice on boiling water, instead. <g>

To: zonder who wrote (3389)	2/5/2003 1:42:41 PM
From: lorne	Respond to of 15987

Zonder. You said...." Powell's "evidence" is BS so far. The market shot up, USD gains, gold is down. All with the expectation that there cannot possibly be a war on this travesty of "evidence". Listen to the market :-) ".... Wow! and what would it mean if the markets should go back down...which they will at some point maybe today maybe tomorrow, would this then be an indicator that the markets were wrong and the evidence is GOOD? And what if gold comes back to day what the heck would this mean. Do you think the gold market is a free market or can events be used to move it around a bit to a lower or higher price by those who have the means to do such things?

To: zonder who wrote (3389)	2/5/2003 3:28:21 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 15987

Powell's "evidence" is BS so far Zonder, it's apparent nothing will ever convince you.. I thought the NSA intercepts were quite compelling. Especially the Republican Guard officers who were discussing the nerve gas on a wireless phone. I also found the satellite photos detailing the decontamination truck being moved from that Chemical weapons "igloo" when the weapons had been moved. That's SOP for when folks are handling them, since they may have an accident. But the most compelling argument is what we already know. That Iraq has violated 16 different UN resolutions during the past 12 months... Resolution 1441 was supposed to be the "last chance" for Saddam to "come clean".. But I guess that the UNSC is good for a couple of more "last chances"... I mean.. look.. even France is saying that we should triple the size of the inspection force. That's TACIT ADMISSION that Iraq has NOT complied. It's BLATANT ADMISSION that Saddam is in material breach. And it's a blatant change of mission, where inspectors now have to become investigators. All for the purpose of avoiding war at any cost (and preserving their oil interests).. So France will never be convinced. And should they use their UN veto, that will effectively be the end of the UN because the US is not going to wait any longer. After all, it's our soldiers that are providing the "stick" that will pummel Saddam when he refuses the UN "carrot". And Bush will be damned if he permits them to sit over there in the desert for months waiting for the moment when France will finally run out of excuses to preserve Saddam's regime. Hawk