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To: paul_philp who wrote (71564)2/5/2003 5:03:09 PM
From: carranza2  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
I have yet to read an anti-war argument that seriously addresses the risks of inaction.

Sure you have. Containment works, has worked well in the past, and will work in the future because all of those toxic toys Saddam has developed, along with their extra-territorial delivery systems, are simply playthings for his sons. The 500 mile range UAVs are simply for fun as are the 900 mile range Scuds.

The aluminum tubes are simply the sophisticated material from which Saddam will make some extra special tiddly-winks for his granddaughters.



To: paul_philp who wrote (71564)2/5/2003 7:46:08 PM
From: JohnM  Respond to of 281500
 
Unless you reject Powell's credibility, it is no longer possible to argue that war is being considered capriciously or cynically by the Bush administration.

Oh, I can and would. The Bush administration consists of folk going in quite a few different directions, marching to the proverbial different drummers. I do not, for an instance, believe the neoconservative justifications for this war are credible. One of the largest PR mistakes the Bush folk made was to float the pre-emptive attack stuff. Just burned them no end on the willingness of folk to believe their arguments. And the stuff in the Goldberg essay about the degree to which Rumsfeld and others will go to manufacture interpretations in the absence of hard evidence, that is genuinely troubling.

One of the genuinely significant things about the Powell presentation is that he stayed away from those gimmicks. God help me if he runs for president. I would seriously have to consider voting for the guy.

Did I say that? Nah.



To: paul_philp who wrote (71564)2/5/2003 8:00:48 PM
From: JohnM  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 281500
 
I have yet to read an anti-war argument that seriously addresses the risks of inaction.

I gather you haven't read the Mearshimer (sp) and Walt pieces.