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To: Oeconomicus who wrote (152681)2/7/2003 11:16:07 AM
From: Bill Harmond  Respond to of 164684
 
washingtonpost.com



To: Oeconomicus who wrote (152681)2/7/2003 12:23:08 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 
Because that was relatively easy and wouldn't disrupt the economy, but this might hurt sales in silly valley? Hmm.

RD, I'm really a newbie on foreign affairs. My ex-husband came from a well connected political family and I learned a lot from him, so international politics have my interest. I'm only reacting to what I see happening to the economy based on this war climate vs. other times when we have gone up against rogue dictators like Milosovic. Its not that I don't care about the human element, of course human casualty is the most important aspect of any war, as well as the aftermath. But I don't have the background to judge that... I don't think many voters do actually for better or worse so I would never be one to say "Clinton's treatment of Korea caused this"... or come up with some assessment of why past behavior of some president essentially created a current crisis. Like most voters I just call it like I see it of the moment, based on who is in the whitehouse today.

Now with this iraq situation we have a severe shortfall of capex orders from international companies. It is strangling the economy at a time when my state is raising sales tax to 9.x%, and our unemployment rate locally is over 10%. (real unemployment much higher). The deficit is the worst I've ever seen. This is not just a "may hurt sales in SV, hmm" situation we have here. The flippant dismissal of this economy by Bush and his supporters will bite him, I can assure you of that. I see his poll results on his handling of international issues are at embarrassing levels now. (24%)

Given that there was no immediate threat and that our economy was coming off a post-bubble recession was this the time to start a war? Is it wise to plunge your economy further into recession, or destroy a fragile recovery, when there is no immediate threat from a rogue dictator, even if you believe he should be taken out? That is the issue, not whether the war on terror is valid or not.

The most worthwhile thing the US could do to maintain a strong defense against terrorism is to have a strong global economy. It would give us money to finance these wars vs. just putting it on the visa. And carefully calculating every move wrt international reaction should be (but clearly isn't) of key importance to any president, unless you want to go back to isolationism.

I wonder if you would say that TJ Rogers or James Morgan (CEOs clearly against Bush foreign policy now vs supporting him in the elections) were against Bush now "because it might hurt sales in SV". You have to give these guys more credit than that, after all look at the jobs they've created and the wealth they've brought this country.
Lizzie



To: Oeconomicus who wrote (152681)2/7/2003 1:26:39 PM
From: Bill Harmond  Respond to of 164684
 
Oh pleeeeze...

It's no wonder Barton Biggs once labeled France the "world's largest outdoor museum."

An unnamed Chirac aide told Le Monde that France was ready to risk serious strains in its relations with pro-war powers United States and Britain to defend its view that only the United Nations[*] has the right to declare a war on Iraq.



[and therefore France!]

reuters.com