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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Carolyn who wrote (6171)	2/7/2003 9:18:17 AM
From: ForYourEyesOnly	Respond to of 25898

Tolerance of dissent and criticism is a requirement for an open, democratic society. Stifling dissent and criticism is the "short road" to a fascist society in which only cheerleading for the government is accepted. The Founding Fathers are most certainly rolling in their graves at the current attempts to stifle the basic American liberties, such as free speech. THC

To: Carolyn who wrote (6171)	2/7/2003 9:50:46 AM
From: Just_Observing	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 25898

the rest of the world is filled with hypocrisy, atrocities, lies, discrimination, warmongering, theft, you-name-it, yet you continue to tear down our beloved country. God made sure that only goodness and light prevail in America while the wicked rest of the world wallows in its well-deserved misery. I wonder on whom he shed his grace before Columbus ran into America? That we consume half the illegal drugs in this world and have by far the largest prison population is yet another demonstration of God's preference for America. That so much stupidity could be crammed into a single sentence speaks eloquently for your high achievement. And yet another indication how God crammed all the high achievers into America. God bless America. We need it more than others.

To: Carolyn who wrote (6171)	2/7/2003 11:15:36 AM
From: PartyTime	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 25898

You really are certain that war is the best way to make the world a better place, huh? Guess what? It hasn't worked yet, has it?

To: Carolyn who wrote (6171)	2/7/2003 11:56:59 AM
From: Rainy_Day_Woman	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 25898

hi woman and yes, when you read this thread it is so anti-american, anti-administration negativity reigns we're really not that bad actually I rather like America perfect? no but the best country and government I've seen

To: Carolyn who wrote (6171)	2/7/2003 12:23:34 PM
From: Thomas M.	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 25898

So, why don't you move to a country that doesn't allow dissent? It seems you would feel more comfortable there. In the meantime, we will continue maintain the ideals of Thomas Jefferson, et al. in spite of your protest. Tom

To: Carolyn who wrote (6171)	2/7/2003 4:03:03 PM
From: BubbaFred	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 25898

Anti-Americans are those who would suppress freedom of expression and speech. I find this thread very enlightening, to read views from both sides rather than just one. Of course everything would be so much simpler and nicer to live in a totalitarian society where the psyche and mood of the people is as dictated by the administration. Anyone who doubt or dissent against the party line would be called subversive, seditious, and acted in treason. It is amazing to see how many percentage of the population who would readily get in line with the party line. I can see now how so many oppressive dictators can remain in power for so long with little opposition, because the majority of the populous is more ready to embrace whatever the administration would say. Most people are engaged in earning a living and totally absorbed in the field of their occupation. They have no time and no interest to delve into anything else. Therefore they rely on others such as the news media for superficial and simplistic presentations of events and phenomena, and they tend to think themselves as "experts" from reading the news. As a simple example would be some special recipe of a delightful dish (with pretty colorful pictures) in the food section of a newspaper. Looks great and one can almost taste such delicious dish by looking at the pictures, and the article appears to have depth. Try to make it. Unless one has done a lot of cooking, one would not be able to duplicate anything near the dish described in the newspaper. Believe me, I am decent with main dishes but really lousy with baking because I have not much experience with baking. Another example would be magazines such as Scientific American and Science. Many people probably think themselves as experts of the field when they read those magazines. For me, they are superficial and merely good for awareness, but far far away from understanding or having real knowledge of it. On the other hand, perhaps most people have much higher intelligence and can develop deeper and keener understanding and develop expertise and total knowledge from reading between the lines.