To: Ron Nairn who wrote (12079 ) 2/9/2003 1:31:15 AM From: axial Respond to of 14101 Ron, a pleasure to read your balanced appraisal. Unfortunately, the DMX dialogue has evolved to the point that anyone who takes a reasoned approach automatically gets labelled "pumper", or worse. If one doesn't take the view that DMX is governed by colossal incompetence, scheming, greedy, malicious management, and providing toxic products that won't work - then the ropes come out, as the lynch mob begins pumping out the paranoia. ( Late edit: stockhouse.ca ) It's been a slog, and yes, there have been mistakes made at DMX. Your post reflects the thinking of the Silent Majority, IMO; for that reason it's especially welcome, because there are many who choose not to speak up, for whatever reasons. There's little to add to what you've said. One possible area of clarification is WRT Provalis and DMX. Some have posted scare stories about the outcome of this action. Termination of such arrangements is a common occurrence in business practice. Normally such contractual arrangements have "escape clauses" built in: Key Performance Indicators, that, if not achieved, will allow termination of the contract. Provalis' argument *seems* to be based on the contention that DMX did not supply data on efficacy, which would presumably have helped Provalis reach their goal. Well, we don't have the documents in front of us, and it's hard to guess which way it will go. We should note that this has not gone to court, however, but to arbitration . One can view arbitration as a kind of expedited proceeding, designed to resolve the matter quickly, and at minimum cost. Both parties must agree to the process. Normally, the most that would be awarded the plaintiff would be the amount of revenue they would have realized if the contract was properly and completely exercised. The point: even in a worst-case scenario (DMX's unmitigated loss) the arbitrator would likely make a very small award, because (as research - and Wayne's posts - have established) - the UK market is a very tough grind for an OA topical. Also, I think most would agree the circumstances of the failed contract are mitigated. Thanks for the breath of fresh air. Regards, Jim