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To: PartyTime who wrote (6592)	2/8/2003 11:19:13 AM
From: Crimson Ghost	Respond to of 25898

US gets involved in Australian politics, warns anti-war lobby 2003-02-07 21:57:45 Sydney Morning Herald 8 February 2003 Accusing the Australian Prime Minister, John Howard, of deceit over Iraq was equivalent to calling President George Bush a liar, a senior United States diplomat has told Australia's Labor Party officials. The diplomat chided Labor this week as tensions flared over the Opposition's trenchant criticism of Washington's approach to Iraq. The row was further fuelled yesterday when the US Ambassador, Tom Scheiffer, said the rhetoric in the political debate over Iraq in Australia was "of some concern" and "not very helpful" to the US-Australian relationship. In a meeting on Thursday, the US deputy chief of mission in Canberra, Mike Owens, told ALP officials he was unhappy with the Opposition's claim that Mr Howard had already given a commitment to go to war with the US and was deceiving the Australian people. Mr Owens was "expressing the view that because Labor has accused John Howard of deceit in relation to deployment of the troops, that that is the same thing as calling President Bush a liar", said the Opposition Leader, Simon Crean. The account of the meeting was not disputed by the US embassy. US diplomats meet regularly with Labor leaders and officials. Because of differences in policy on Iraq, some exchanges have been vigorous. But the US criticism took on a different tone after Labor figures such as Mark Latham questioned Mr Bush's competence and the Opposition ratcheted up its claims of Mr Howard's dishonesty. To the embarrassment of the US, a report yesterday which was traced back to its Canberra embassy suggested that a formal complaint had been lodged about ALP criticism of Mr Bush, amid US charges that the Opposition was damaging the alliance and fanning "anti-Americanism". Mr Schieffer met Mr Crean yesterday afternoon and, say Labor figures, admitted that the leaking of the complaint had been a "mistake". The US State Department had no official comment on the earlier meeting between the embassy and Labor officials. Details of Mr Owens's message to Labor officials highlights the close ties between the Bush and Howard administrations on the eve of the Prime Minister's departure for the US, London and Jakarta in a final round of diplomacy ahead of conflict with Iraq. Mr Howard will push for a second UN resolution, something Mr Bush said overnight that he wanted. But both countries remain prepared to act against Iraq if that resolution is not passed.

To: PartyTime who wrote (6592)	2/8/2003 3:01:04 PM
From: bacchus_ii	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

*RE:"Has anyone heard this story in either America's print or talk media, beyond MSNBC?"* Babel Fish Translation French>English of radio-canada.ca The report presented Monday by the British government and whose objective was to show that Iraq had weapons of massive destruction is to a large extent the plagiarism of the work of an American student and not, as affirmed it London, the result of an investigation of its services of information. Thursday evening, Glen Rangwala, which teaches the policy at the university of Cambridge, affirmed that six to 16 of the 19 pages of the British report had been recopied word for word starting from the thesis of one of its students, Ibrahim Al-Marashi. "Including the grammatical errors and the spelling mistakes", it underlined. Naturally, the report/ratio did not mention any original author. Friday, Downing Street recognized the facts, but ensured that information, old women 12 year old, was always valid. Mr. Al-Marashi indicated that his thesis had been published last September in the review Middle East Review of International Affairs , specifying that its information came from documents seized in 1991 by Kurdish rebels and files given up by the Iraqis after their departure of Koweït. The Secretary of State American, Powell Hake, had refers to the British report/ratio when it presented his own evidence of the duplicity of Baghdad. "I would like to draw the attention of my colleagues to the excellent dossier presented by the United Kingdom, which describes in detail the Iraqi activities of dissimulation", it had declared. This obvious offence of attempt at handling of the public opinion certainly will not help the Prime Minister Tony Blair to convince the British of the need for a war against Iraq. It had besides of it an outline, Thursday evening, when it was highly challenged during nearly one hour by televiewers of the BBC who described it of "vice-president" of the United States and "honorable representing district of Texas north ". "It is a new example in the way in which the government tries to mislead the public and the Parliament on a possible war against Iraq", for its part estimated the actress Glenda Jackson, appointed Labour.