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Politics : Foreign Policy Discussion Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (3572)	2/8/2003 11:25:28 AM
From: KonKilo	Respond to of 15987

I really find it quite effective to break down international relations to that of Children interacting with one another. Hawk, I have been having similar thoughts recently, too. Our dilemma is that we are the adult.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (3572)	2/8/2003 12:01:00 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 15987

Hmmm.. force them to attack us Lindy?? FDR very much wanted to enter the war against Germany. He did all he could in the Atlantic to get Hitler to declare, but nothing worked. The best evidence is that he figured if Japan started a war with us he could use it to fight Hitler. That is why he cut off selling them oil and steel. He figured they would attack, we would hold them off, and he could use this as an excuse to go after Hitler. He figured beating Japan would be a snap. You know, "those little bow legged people with buck teeth and glasses that could not do anything right." He never dreamed that the Japs could knock us off so easily. Pearl Harbor put him in a real bind. We were now in a major war with Japan, and behind the eight ball. FDR's worst domestic enemy did him a big favor. Robert McCormick, Publisher of the Chicago Trib, printed a pirated version of our war plans against Hitler, Rainbow Five, the week before Pearl. After Dec 7th, when we were at war with Japan, but not Germany, and FDR was at his wit's end, Hitler did him the favor of declaring war on us. Seems he had been shown a translated copy of the Trib, and figured he might as well get it over with. Major mistake by Hitler.